Nerf Feral, Sub, and Frost Mage

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Looks like Murlok io

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Nobody who understands the new frost mage meta is using ray of frost right now. You have too many hard cast abilities with frost fire bolt and a reduction on ring of fire. Plus with all your extra instant cast spells and procs to cast, ray of frost is 2 wasted talent points that you need in other parts of the talent tree. Plus it simply doesn’t hit that hard to be worth it.

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I find this extremely funny coming from the one class that no mage wants to fight. But I’m not calling for nerfs to DKs, I just want to you stop using Blood in PVP. Right now mage, especially frost, feels really good - I can finally pressure healers WITHOUT stupid spells (glacial spike/ray of frost), which I haven’t been able to do since before BoA.

Ferals are only OP’d when they get the stealth attack, if you can knock them out of stealth, it really is not as bad as anyone else. Sub, I assume you mean rogues, same as ferals to me.

For DKs, I think your damage is good, but you may need some defenses improved. Don’t think I’d give spell reflect, but it wouldn’t hurt if your spell shield lasted 2 or 3 seconds longer - I’d bake that into the class talents though.

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I get the frost mage and feral calls for nerfs, but whats up with sub?

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Wow, this is the most cursed thing I have ever heard. UHDK already does insanely well into wizards.

No offense, champ, but mage is overtuned in pvp AND pve atm XD

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I have struggled for too long against druids, with their insta-cast heals and shift-till-end-of-world shenanigan’s. Like I said earlier I can pressure you guys and healers in general because my damage is finally getting thru, may not win, but will draw you away at the very least and won’t allow you and your team to just steam roll thru everything. Ultimately I think that’s the problem, all these other class saw mages as easy kills, and now we’re not (well I don’t know about arcane and fire). I said it before and I’ll say it again - adapt or quit, but we’re not going backwards.

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yea its murlok io.

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you didn’t mention fury war GODS???

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I think they’re going to nail frost mage to a wall and shoot it, and they’re probably going to nerf the modifiers in sunfury since it’s also the overperforming hero set for arcane.

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Tbh i like the spellslinger for arc, the mobility and shield buff feels rly valuable

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The shield buff has been saving me in BG’s a lot.

Plus shards randomly crank.

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You have to be trolling. Mage has been an unkillable class since at least BFA o.O

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Overtuned specs generally do, yes.

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are we expecting pvp tuning pass before season starts in 10 days?

My bet is no, that they will wait until after people get 4 set, when the season is half way over.

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just got some today don’t think they will be enough though maybe some more later on.

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fury doesn’t even need odyns fury, nor is it the problem, 20% nerf to odyns isnt going change anything.

30% nerf to ice lance is a start, but probably needed 50% nerf tbh

Feral is getting more bleed dmg to offset the bite nerfs


Enh actually got substantial buffs, so thats good for them

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ik about fury we run double reck idc what happens to it as long as mage suffers. id rather arms be good since its my main.

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You must be new because you can most definitely meld ray.

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You must be new yourself, should reply back on your main, not some alt.

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Look my main up. I ain’t the hard stuck 2k rogue