Nerf EXP from BGs and/or make a low base ilvl required

[Cantz-saurfang (Cantz)]

You’re right, and they can level through BGs. The new player will also be disadvantaged greatly by the enchanted heirloom player, but no one wants to bring that up.

Of course it won’t, its actually only being brought up since this whole twink getting seperated became a thing again, which is just a change thats being reverted from the mess that was pvp templates.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

You know that templates was more fair for the new player than twinks and heirloom gear right? If we’re actually speaking for the new player.

[Cantz-saurfang (Cantz)]

You know that templated was more fair for the new player than twinks and heirloom gear right?

No one said it wasn’t, it just wasn’t fun only having 40 or so agi in the 10-19 bracket as a rogue when other classes had way more main stat.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

But I thought we were vouching for the new player?

[Cantz-saurfang (Cantz)]

But I thought we were vouching for the new player?

Yes, in current times, not for a system thats no longer a thing.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

So you only have interest in your style of play it seems. Sounds familiar.

[Cantz-saurfang (Cantz)]

So you only have interest in your style of play it seems. Sounds familiar.

Oh yes, tell us about your style of play with pvp templates while they aren’t even in the game anymore.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

Tell us about the toon you’re leveling? Are you wearing heirlooms?

[Chalee-saurfang]

Tell us about the toon you’re leveling? Are you wearing heirlooms?

Here it is, and no actually.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

Oh another 110+ That has its own problems. Heirlooms are now available up to 120

[Chalee-saurfang]

Oh another 110+ That has its own problems. Heirlooms are now available up to 120

I never said I had any problems? Don’t even need heirlooms in BfA due to how quick you can cap out a toon, my skinning and leatherworking is even already capped. All I need is titancores when I hit 120.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

Or they can run BGs over and over for the gear, hence the caches you keep trying to point out.

Am I the only one who is seeing the worgens point? What if he was a brand new player who didn’t know any better. I’m pretty sure if I were to level a new toon without heirlooms, with how quick leveling is, I’d end up with a few white pieces or empty slots by the time I got to 28.

You started with this though.

[Chalee-saurfang]

You started with this though.

Yeah I did, because this rogue didn’t start at 110+

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

So did you use heirlooms while leveling?

[Chalee-saurfang]

So did you use heirlooms while leveling?

Nope, didn’t need to, because it was 7.3.5 and pvp templates were a thing, so the leveling speed was actually reduced so getting the empty slots filled was actually easier. That isn’t the case these days since the xp between levels have been lowered.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

Would you use them now?

[Chalee-saurfang]

Would you use them now?

Maybe, wouldn’t bother enchanting though. Also remember heirlooms have lower stats than blues at the same level now.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

Be honest. You’d use them and that throws your argument for the new player out the window. And why you wouldn’t enchant them is beyond me.

[Chalee-saurfang]

Be honest. You’d use them and that throws your argument for the new player out the window. And why you wouldn’t enchant them is beyond me.

The enchants are a bit more pricey on my realm, not linked to other realms etc.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

Yea but like you pointed out with the worgen, they don’t gear as fast. I call bs on that though. I’ve gotten literally every piece through bg caches by mid 20s