Go watch the best people in the world play not ONE not even ONE DH lol nice try bud. Like Idk if you’re trolling or being for real lol. I’ve watched every big tourny not one DH like I said and every other team had a monk. Not my fault you can’t play.
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Are you trolling right now? You are really comparing a few people to the ENTIRE rated player base.
Wow
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DHs have a low skill cap to play lol theres gonna be alot in the rated numbers lol I am talking about the BEST as in winning Worlds lol like I said Idk if you are trolling or you really are that special say what you want but clearly you aren’t gonna learn. 0 DHs in the huges tournaments every other team has a monk GL explaining that one.
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You have no idea what you are talking about. Please work on punctuation and using less "lol"s.
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Sorry bud didnt know I was writing a essay but usually when people come to that they lose the argument. Nice try tho and wait lol lol lol
Hard to lose against an argument when you never had one.
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No joke you’re the only one that thinks so haha. Oh wait lol lol lol
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Dont worry, you can have the last word.
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Thanks <3 such a smart and intelligent guy. sorry Lol lol lol
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JK chains of ice spam /lol emote.
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no, it’s already nerfing, only you who in 15 years of your old classes still don’t know how to play it.
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Give us Nightborne demon hunters. I don’t like belf posture. Also give us night elf option the same way void and belf can be high elf. I want a night elf nightborne horde DH.
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Playing dh got me a girlfriend so please no dont nerf
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Lol, just roll a mage, gg.
Maybe you should cry about buffing other classes instead
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The problem with DH isn’t their mobility, it’s that they are universally good, a swiss army knife. Demon Hunters get the best of, almost every, world. We get more instant mobility than any other class (besides a rouge shadowstep, and even then we can beat them if they don’t have anything to step to), we get healing from every spell that we cast, lots of cd to stop incoming damage, decent cc, and in pvp we’re pretty hard to take down. I do agree that we should be nerfed, just not our mobility, nerf our damage a bit, or even change our spells so that we have a new rotation that does less damage but is more enjoyable than pressing whatever is off cd. And to all of you DH just saying “Mmmmmmm love your tears, cry more!” are just scared of getting changed so much that you can’t top dps charts with eye beam (I know that people are going to say “we don’t top dps charts” but if you look at how much dh does at lower keystones, which is where most of the player base is at, you will see that at 400 ilvl you can easily do 20-30k dps with just eye beam and blade dance) You just saying you enjoy someone’s tears doesn’t counter someone’s argument. Provide a reason why you shouldn’t get nerfed.
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So your argument is based off of how much power we have at lower levels? That is just absurd. Yes we have a fairly easy kit to tinker with compared to other classes at lower levels of play. However when you start to look at the top tier of play we just can’t compete with classes that can specialize in different areas. You see everyone wants to complain that DH’s are just good at everything. Yes, yes we are good at everything but we are not exceptional at everything. We don’t get to “specialize” into anything.
We have good AOE, however Mages, DK’s, and even Ret can out AOE us. We are good at single target but again Warriors and Hunters beat us out there too. We have better than avg survival but that survival is honestly propped up because of how we use Blade Dance/Death Sweep on CD even on a Single Target with gives us 100% chance to dodge. Not sure about your gear level but with mine my CD on Blade Dance/Death Sweep is between 2-4 seconds depending on Ineffable procs. So I have a much better chance to just negate any damage coming my way.
So if they take that 100% chance to dodge every 2-4 secs away from me I know for a fact we become a setting duck. I often think about how lazy or just plain inept the player base has become. I actually blame Blizzard on their game design and of course because of Power Creep. There was a time in the game where in Dungeons and Raids we had to CC mobs or we were going to die. With this day and age most players don’t have CC on their bars. If you CC a DH, that DH can not heal and we fall over like a wet noodle. I don’t care about your 1v1 or World Pvp encounters, the game is balanced around 3v3 when it concerns PvP. If you can’t organize a CC chain then you don’t belong in PvP.
Oh and if you are wondering where we actually stack up in a pure ST fight and AOE here are the statistics from real world logs.
Shad’har the Insatiable
Normal https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/24#boss=2335&difficulty=3
Heroic https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/24#boss=2335&difficulty=4
Mythic https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/24#boss=2335
The Hivemind
Normal https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/24#boss=2333&difficulty=3
Heroic https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/24#boss=2333&difficulty=4
Mythic https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/24#boss=2333
3v3 Arena ladder https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/game/pvp/leaderboards/3v3
PvP Leaderboards https://www.pvpleaderboard.com/leaderboards/3v3/us
Arenamate https://www.arenamate.net/?region=&realm=&rating=0&ladder=3v3&faction=&class_filter=12&spec_filter=577
So where is the Demon Hunter dominance at? I guess we are just king of the casuals and they want a new king???
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That versatility is what makes DH what it is. If you nerf that you may as well delete the class
What? No why would you say that. We need more mobility. Also our eye beam should deal more damage and it should blind enemies in a cone in front of me. Meta form should last 1 minute since it is on a 4 min cd. DH requires a lot of skill. We need to know when to use Chaos Nova.
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The problem with demon hunters is like what an above poster said: they’re a swiss army knife of a class. They can do everything. Maybe not the best at everything but there isn’t a situation that shows up that they don’t have a solution to. Except roots, I guess.
I don’t think removing their damage or mobility is correct. That’s why people play the class. Their damage isn’t even all that impressive at the moment in PvE. Mastery stacking demon hunter cheese in PvP is petty oppressive and annoying, though.
The problem with demon hunters in my opinion is that they have too much passive survivability and it looks like it’s being toned down in shadowlands. Losing 2 seconds from demonic meta and the ability for blade dance to dodge outside of meta will make them less frustrating to play against. Unfortunately, it will also have the downside of lowering the skill cap even more than it is.
I would be surprised if demon hunters are still considered op by the masses in shadowlands. Except for trolls and people who hate whatever the newest thing is.
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