Negativity

That whole era afterwards would be wild to live through for me, too

To answer the why ,you have to answer the what,when and where but we can’t say anything or we’ll be silence ,block and listed.

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Death Knights too. :dracthyr_nod:

This. The real issues are people who can’t handle listening to different ideas and people who troll and harass in a game because they’re not good people.

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Yo, I never see anybody who knows about Big Country.

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One has to make a lot of mistakes to learn that lesson, and some of us take longer than others. But it’s a good idea to aspire to.

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I don’t know if it would ever be possible for humans to achieve it. Super societies - ants, bees and termites show us it can be done. There is a hive mind, but even in that hive mind there is still freedom. The adolescent buggles take care of the nest, tending to the babies, cleaning, feeding the producers, and defending; each bug is drawn to doing what it likes, some of them take up all roles, some don’t - particularly queen tenders. Once the adolescents get their wings fully developed and have greater strength, they move on. The elder bees of the nest are the scouts and workers. They’re more mature, have greater stamina, but are also a little more expendible. They hunt for pollen and communicate with the younger generations and their fellow gatherers where to find the resources.

Millions upon billions of the critters exist working on the same goal, never getting bored or starting inter-hive wars, even when resources are low. And even when new queens become viable and you’d expect a territorial dispute. The hive simply splits and those who like the pheremones of the new queen follow her off to form a new hive.

So it’s out there. We’ve observed it. I just dunno that humans will ever achieve it. I would also totally keep bees if I weren’t allergic to their sting.

:honeybee: :hibiscus: :honey_pot:

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Welcome to ego and thinking you’re special. The downfall of humans, which has been said 1,000 times, and people still go, “Lol”.

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The intersting thing is, if AI continues to replace us for general labor and we genuinely make ourselves and our work obsolete - we might be apt to destroy said egos. We’ll have to find some other way to declare we’re special, because our employment/career is no longer gonna be the shining beacon we build our identities around.
ATMs gutted the banking industry. I provided mental health support to oodles of cashiers (when automated checkouts and ATMs hit at about the same time) and bank tellers that lost their jobs and had to fast track into other careers.

We’re seeing robo lawn mowers that might cut down on the landscaping industry. Robo vacs and floor sweepers/cleaners that are taking over janitorial services.

We’re living in really interesting times. I’m not sure if it’s a good or bad thing, but it’s gonna redefine swaths of our populations ability to put bread on the table… which is scary.

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Why do you need to feel special? The ant theory posted above was spot on, think any of those ant’s are like, “I’m the man”. No they live in harmony and allow a colony to thrive.

It’s one of the more profound enigmas of human nature. Ego comes from so many combined sources that other creatures don’t necessarily think about/engage with. There’s theories that suggest it’s because of our unique way to create object and concept manipulation in our brains - think forward and backwards in time that has something to do with it. We can envision where we want to be in 5 years, financially/stability wise. Then we strive to achieve that. Other creatures, as far as we know do not have the capacity to think that far ahead and map out plans. They take things day by day and rarely strive to achieve anything outside of moment to moment survival.

The concept of ego and how it’s built is way more complex than that. But that’s the gist of how and why we might be blessed/cursed with it.

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Yeah, we aren’t ants though and likely aren’t going to evolve into them. Which I’m personally okay with. We’ve certainly observed that ants work very collectively but we definitely don’t have any measurement on “happiness” in them.

Humans aren’t born in certain “roles” that dictate from birth what their interests, profession, and function in society will be. The only way we’d get there is to centralize authority into few enough hands that they get to decide what each person does in life, maybe neutering the rejection of such a system through technology.

Not sure about you but I’m not interested in that.

Too much focus on individualism and ego is bad…going full collectivist/hive mind isn’t great either.

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Hmmm…

We do measure their happiness, based on positive judgment bias. Certainty vs. uncertainty. Also their output of calming or alert pheremones.

Here’s a little snippet:

The caste system disagrees with you. Although humanity did overcome it in most areas of the world, it is still very prevalent. There’s a movie out right now called Origin. It’s about the ongoing unspoken caste systems still in place in modern day society.

But ants aren’t subjected or forced into their roles either - none of the other ants force each other to do anything based on rank or what have you. Whatever instincts they develop as they mature makes them gravitate into what they do for the hive. Queen tenders usually are the most unique. Probably because they’re most heavily exposed to her phremones, but compared to the rest of the hive they’re incredibly affectionate. Constantly grooming her and one another to keep the potential for contamination and infection away from her and the brooding area.

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Im honestly not sure how the trust level thing works. Ive been active here for 6 years (according to my summary screen. Though Ive been here since 2004) and it says my TL is Member. I have no idea what that rank means, other than I know I cannot post links/photos. And not sure how to raise to that level

You are trust level 2. Note that is specific to the charname-server, not Battlenet account wide. Each char has its own trust level it has to earn under the current WoW forum system. Changing name or server resets it to zero.

You can start with this thread one of our former Tech MVPs posted in 2018 when the forum software deployed.

You can also check the Discourse website to learn more about the forum software. They are the maker of it.

Basically, there are 4 trust levels:

  • TL0 which is what an account starts as
  • TL1 which you get in about ten mins just from reading posts/giving a like maybe?
  • TL2 which takes repeated forum visits over a period of weeks, reading posts, and a few likes.
  • TL3 which takes enough reading, likes, and visits over a 100 day period to earn. You have to keep that activity up to maintain it. A suspension removes that and you have to earn it back starting 6 months after it expires.
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Subdivisions
In the M+ Halls
Behind PvP Walls
Conform or be cast out

Subdivisions
In the Mogs that you fret
In the Mounts you can’t get

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The fact that we’ve moved on from monarchy and fiefdom in most of the world speaks to the fact that we’ve tried similar systems and found better.

Personally I’m quite a fan of classical liberalism and believe it’s making a nice comeback currently against rising collectivism on the political poles. I dig a good balance between individual freedom, ambition, and a combined healthy concern (not sole focus) on the idea of a greater good.

I think we need it more than ever going into the kind of future we’re building. I’d prefer to see a pretty open source technological future emphasizing freedom and progress than the dystopian options we might stumble into.

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I wish there was a way to track your stats. It’s annoying for me to have a rolling requirement and no way to know how you’re doing at maintaining it.

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a lot of expressed opinion is in support of RMT 3rd party transactions.

anything that threatens that brings an immediate response.

wow is a great game that unfortunately supports a 3rd world country sized RMT economy that hurts the play experience for a lot of customers…

I do not understand why this keeps being said. They hate third party real money gold buying.