Need to go back to Personal Loot

As someone who lived through personal loot,
NO you do NOT want it back.

Personal loot was absolutely terrible.

Getting belt after belt after belt absolutely sucked.

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I mean, if you know absolutely nothing about probability and feel entitled to loot then yeah I can see how you might think that

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do you work at blizzard? can you source where you got the information from that says under personal loot coding 9 leathers will have more of a chance over 1 plate? ill wait. seems ill be waiting forever.
basing your information on misinformation is really funny though.

completely unrelated to everyone being able to roll need but ok? why not just ask for them to show the rolls of who won and lost then? your making zero sense.

again off on a tangent that has nothing to do with everyone rolling need.
you didnt have to stack pug groups under personal loot either. you did it cause you wanted to.
bruh.
:dracthyr_crylaugh:

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9:1 odds seems like a fairly obvious thing.

I dont care about everyone rolling need, that isnt an issue to me in the slightest. Where did you get that from? You asked and I answered.

In order to game the system and get loot desirable to me, yes, group stacks were common.

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That’s not how armor stacking works. It means that if some one gets something they can’t use then it’s very likely another person in the group will be able to use it because of armor type. It’s the reason they got rid of PL.

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I disagree. I think thats a silly argument. Youre basically saying RNG is RNG to explain every conceivable variable. “Random is random.”

Well gee thanks for that compelling annalysis. Im actually quite good with patterns, hence why i see a difference.

And we already do know theres other factors other than rng. So the argument is wrong immediately to begin with.

source trust you bro?

if you have the source to why loot works the way it works and arent sharing it arent you just hurting your own points?

it literally doesnt make sense. well it does make sense if your only source is misinformation.

you probably read this somewhere multiple times, took it as fact because it confirms your own biases and started spreading it yourself as truth. classic.

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when has plate ever dropped for a mage under the personal loot system?

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In fact, Blizzard bragged about it when the system rolled out. “With personal loot, you’ll never again get a crossbow when nobody in the team can use it.”

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You’re not good at understanding probability. Do you call the gaming commission when you see the roulette table go on a streak of red? Or do you understand that sometimes that’s just how the ball lands? It doesn’t matter how good you are at patterns when you’re dealing with something that, by definition, has no pattern. It’s random.

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True, I think i remember that.

The response i expected lol. RNG isnt just RNG right now. Its also calculating who needs something, and we don’t know the intricacies of that yet.

I mean im sure somebody thinks they known exactly how things are being calculated but its a very big improbability to have thw rolls i have if the system is opperating as advertised. Hence why i notice an Abnormality. Abnormality can exist in random as well.

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Absolutely zero proof of this claim. You lost loot rolls, get over it.

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so this is your source of proof for

oh man. thanks for the laugh today. misinformation spreaders are something else.

:dracthyr_crylaugh:

Are you going to answer the question or not?

Yes, watching you try to argue something by going back and making 10 edits to a post somebody already responded to is quite humorous. But please, if everyone here is so incorrect then provide us with the correct information.

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Let’s be real here.

They got rid of PL because some of the decision makers at blizzard are completely and absolutely obsessed with guild focused raiding. They saw personal loot as a way to bypass the guild aspect of raiding, which, unsurprisingly, saw guild membership dropping, which upset them.

If something allows players to bypass guilds in some way, it’s lifespan will generally be short. Those decision makers desperately want us to go back to the 2010s, where it was raid or wander around in quest greens.

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Blizzard has done nothing but crap all over guild raiding since Ion took over in Legion.

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Yeah there is absolutely no chance you ran all 3 raids and didn’t get a single piece.

24 bosses, no chance you didn’t get at least one win.

I do only normal and have full tier in 3 weeks pugging…

You are straight up lying

If you knew what you were talking about you would know a 626 non tier piece is actually a better performing item than an LFR tier piece, especially an S1 tier piece where all but one spec sims less than a 10% upgrade by having tier, the higher iLVL, the higher main stat, stamina and secondary stats far outweigh these lowly S1 tier pieces.

Only once ever have I seen borrowed power at a lower iLVL out-perform a higher iLVL piece by enough of a margin that players can argue they should be allowed to roll on an LFR piece, and that was S3 shadowlands where tier and leggos made us that much stronger it was kind of a joke.

If you can run around collecting 6/6 hero pieces you are obviously running either M9, last 2 bosses in heroic raid, or mythic raiding as those are the only sources of crests that can upgrade past 4/6 hero gear, and if you are that good you don’t need LFR gear.

Being entitled are players running heroic and mythic raid or high keys and thinking it’s perfectly OK to go into LFR and take gear from people who need it more, from people who have no other avenue to get gear, myself included here.

People like the dude I saw earlier running a 626 iLVL non tier piece who rolled and won a 593 iLVL non tier piece, that item is 100% either being disenchanted or sold straight to a vendor for what 60 gold when there was like 6 other people who could have used it for an actual upgrade.

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I will always be of the opinion that ALL queued content should be personal loot. Always. Rolling is fine in premade groups.

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