this is what people campaigned for, to get rid of personal loot that was the fairest loot system we ever had, and to go back to this antiquated 20 year old loot system that benefits trolls that would take every item you own if they had a button to press to do that.
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- Personal loot is still in the game - all 5-man dungeons still use personal loot.
- Personal loot was removed from raids because it allows you to ‘cook the books’ and dictate which items drop. Blizzard was QUITE clear that was the problem, when they removed personal loot from raids.
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- Bring back Bullions
- LFR should be PL
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I’d be okay with Bullions.
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How so? Do you mean stacking groups visa queues? If so, how does the current system prevent that?
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Get rid of loot drops entirely.
Get rid of the vault.
Switch to currency.
Get the loot you want, no more wasted loot, no more guild loot drama, no more funneling, no more stacking, no more artificial progression.
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- why are you arguing with the voices in your head? point to where i said personal loot is no longer in the game. ill wait.
- we are talking about LFR. its not the same thing as guilds needing master loot so they can distribute loot and you know that. stop being weird.
To be fair, the OP has changed the thread title subject like 4 times
that is a nice token that dropped…would be a shame if someone rolled need on it to send it to alts.
I wouldn’t mind that, but i doubt it happens.
Im for if you get no loot in one full run. The final boss gives you a token you can use for anything.
1 piece a run is more than fair for LFR.
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I was probably one of them that remember the old need/greed system and loved it BUT now in LFR at least it feels horrible, feel probably being the key word there.
I guess you think you want it but you don’t 
Now doing timewalking with PL, it felt kind of bad cause we were having to do “anyone need this” rolls and “Hey can I have that” etc but everyone seems to get a fair share of loot TBH and actually felt pretty good.
I honestly wouldn’t mind a system where it was personal loot, but then it comes up asking if you want to offer it to the group, then allocating it to the need/greed system.
I’ve got an addon that does it but it would require everyone to have it to be effective (and you’d still get a tonne of whispers)
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First, you need to understand how personal loot works, and differs from all other loot forms, when it comes to determining which items drop.
Personal Loot:
- How many items drop? (based off group size)
- Which players get items? (random selection)
- Randomly select items from those players’ loot tables.
Group Loot:
- How many items drop? (based off group size)
- Randomly select items from boss loot table.
It’s the very nature of personal loot that makes it so easy to dictate the drops.
Let’s take a simple example. The first boss (the spider) in Ara-Kara drops that trinket everyone wants.
Fun fact: That trinket is the ONLY item on that boss’ loot table for Shadow Priests. Go in with a tank and 4 priests, all setting their loot to Shadow preference, and there’s a 90% chance it drops.
Here’s how it works:
A. 80% chance of a Priest getting the loot drop, 20% chance of the tank
B. That tank’s loot table is half the trinket, half another item, so half the 20% chance is also added to the odds of the trinket dropping.
C. If a Priest gets the loot drop, it’s always the trinket. There are no other possibilities.
You can apply the same method on a larger scale to raids. It’s not as precise, because you need a wider variety of characters, and there are more items on the loot tables. But people would absolutely stack Hunters to try and get the Sylvanas bow to drop, or Priests for the ring off of Anduin. Then trade to whomever you want to have it.
This was widespread under personal loot. People on this forum don’t realize it, but… it was widely spread. 
Enough for Blizzard to notice.
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that would be a great solution but i doubt most people would even use it. if we judge by the people on these forums everyone would rather vendor drops over letting people roll on them
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Ok, while i think thats clever, to avoid that couldn’t Blizz put a limit on how many you can que for LFR?
I think there may be better solutions than abandon personal loot, because right now this is worse.
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I’m one for vendor drops, I loved Bullions
TBH that’s true. My mate asks why I whisper everyone and I found, if you don’t ask, they won’t offer.
I direct you to the random battlegrounds, where there is a limit on how many you can queue with, and people have been getting around it for… 15 years, at this point?
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calling bs on this. source your information. otherwise its just more misinformation, but im gonna guess you have no sources for this.
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The widely-known information on how the game’s loot systems work?
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the widely known information that you cant source? huh. makes sense.
classic misinformation spreader.
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