Need help picking a new gaming PC

You can configure it with some better options if you want -

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Looks like you can build it up. I’d spend the extra on the 3700x because it’s harder to upgrade (other stuff like RAM and drives is just adding, not replacing) without losing money.

It’s a +$150, which is not TOO bad over retail (Ryzen 5 3600 ~$175, Ryzen 7 3700x is around $290).

Would this work?
lytetechnology/product/crown

their pre-builts are rather old in terms of parts
I was able to make a custom build under $860 that included the Ryzen 3600, 16GB of RAM, 500GB SSD and AMD 580 8GB video card and that was still over priced.

via Newegg - will handle WoW at 1440p 60FPS max settings

ABS Master Gaming PC - Intel i5 10400 - GeForce RTX 2060 - 16GB DDR4 - 512GB SSD $970

Intel Core i5 10th Gen 10400 (2.90GHz)
GeForce RTX 2060 6GB
16GB DDR4 3000MHz
512GB SSD
Windows 10 Home 64-bit
Gaming Keyboard & Mouse
VR Ready

via HP web site - HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop - TG01-0160xt - $700
can handle WoW at 1080p 60fps level 7 settings. You need to purchase a SSD for the game separately.

that wont run @ 1440p 60fpsmax settings. How do I know? Because not even my 5700 xt can and its around the level of a 2070 super.

uh

5700xt absolutely can run 1440p/60fps max settings in wow

and when it can’t, it ain’t the GPU that’s causing it.

Not at a constant 60 FPS, i dip below when i enter open world combat as well as certain hubs. Granted I also have a 1080p 144hz also being powered by the 5700xt.

that’s not a GPU isse

i have 3x displays - only one is the game display though.

it is because its pegged at 99%

Dunno what to say except your experience is different than my experience.

Although expecting a constant 60fps all the time is probably a faulty expectation to begin with.

Generally, even at max settings (even with MSAAx8) and RIS enabled 100%, I am able to maintain a steady 90-120fps with dips into the 50s and 60s during raids and stuff, which is expected and happens to every GPU.

This is also why reviews publish 1% and 0.1% lows, it happens.

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Hardware info had the gtx1080 (non-ti) doing 53FPS avg on BoA ultra 1440p. Both toms and TPU list the gtx 1080p and rtx 2060 as equal in performance.

That’s the WoW engine itself. I have a OC 9700k that has WoW dipping to 60 FPS at times. Does not mean the majority of the game I’m over 100FPS on ultra 1080p

53fps seems awfully low.

I’m going to do a test right now. If I’m wrong, I’ll take the L.

I know that in general questing running around I rarely ever go below 60fps at 1440p at max settings.

About to do battle for stromgarde, which should give some decent returns on bad fps fights.

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It was done pre-patch 8.1. that patch helped with some multi core support and may have bumped up numbers

presently waiting in queue because nobody seems to be doign heroic at the momnent

Should I do CMAA or MSAAx8?

Nobody seems to benchmark games with AA on

recorded one with MSAAx8. It really heats up my GPU though. Uploading it now. WIsh it was more intensive, but i got impatient and didn’t want to wait for something more intense.

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they had MSAA set to “Color 4x / Depth”

hard finding a lot of folks today.

I just did a WQ which usually is super busy but i could only get like 5 people.

This was more intense because it’s in zul’dazar, a BFA zone.

Still above 70fps, 1440p, 10, msaax8 (i never use)

I could see it dipping below 60 in a more intense fight, but…i mean that’s a given.

On average its well above 100fps.

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OK lol…I found my issue, render scale for me was set to like 160%! I had done this when i swapped from a GTX 1080 to my 5700 xt. I used a DVI cable with the 1080 in order to get 1080p 144hz. 5700 xt lacked this so i swapped to HDMI but my monitor could not do 144hz with HDMI. So as a substitute I bumped up the render scale as I could only play at 60hz on HDMI. Guess when i got my 1440p monitor i forgot to change it back to 100%

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I don’t actually play on those settings (generally on ~7) and i enable an 85fps limit along with an 85hz custom refresh.

it doesn’t really look any better and i get worse thermals and noise.

Part of the reason I want to upgrade to the 3080 or big navi - i want to get more performance at less heat/noise.

I believe the appropriate reaction is “Oof”

That said, I am in the same boat as @Salhezar… In so much as I actively limit my FPS maximum. I run a bit higher (100fps), it hits that just-right spot of fluidity in all situations, without turning my GPU OR monitor into a space heater.

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