Mythic Plus Is Breaking The Community's Spirit

Youre 222.

Except its a ton easier to do 15s than mythic raid. They would have to make M+ more difficult or greatly extend what is needed to top out in m+. Like to 20s or something.

well it’s a player problem not theirs let em do it. why should everyone else be punished cause people can’t control themselves in a video game.

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Debatable. Individual effort is tighter in 15s, mythic raiding is usually just waiting for Jerry to do the mechanic right.

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Thank you for giving a great example on why mythic raiding is more difficult.

Getting more people to work harder is more difficult than trimming down to 5 people and getting rewarded in M+ even if you literally fail the key.

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I made turkey but it was not prepared

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I mentioned it in another thread, I think keys should give nothing if the timer fails (all mobs despawn and you’re ported out). But I also think valor should be upgradable to 226 as long as you have KSM and time 4 dungeons that week (like ye old pvp raiding gate).

Yes! Remove timegates too! More freedom to play how we want would be nice.

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If only. Launch with 16 dungeons and 5 raids and let people pace themselves.

I am not against tweaking the m+ loot system. But not sure I am on that same page.

I would want a +18 KSM for 226 to be implemented. I just find 15s so much easier to work on and accomplish than mythic raiding.

Valor reward should also be based on key done.

I don’t know if you meant to word it that way but it’s cracking me up. laughs

nah man thats horrible, if blizz does stuff only for high end players it makes the game suck for everyone else who cares what the 1% do or dont if they want to spam m+ till their hands bleed let them.

I’m hesitant to post my reasoning as to why I think titanforging was bad, as I get the feeling in going to get mauled to death by toxic casuals.

Suffice to say, many asked for its removal and for “gear to be gear”; but I think the decision to reduce loot drops to near classic levels was all Blizzard.

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gear being just gear is boring as hell, you literally only played for the reset this xpac nothing of value dropped from the actual content till valor came along but even with that loot is still boring

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DPS and HPS requirements are about the same in +15 and mythic raids. Going to 18 might be a bit steep. 15s are easy now that everyone has caught up and has 220+ gear, but 9 weeks ago when only raiders where over 220, +15 was pretty difficult for the m+ only players. And getting into a pug without MCN gear was basically impossible until the vault closed the gap.

IDK where the sweet spot is, but +18 requires more performance than almost any mythic boss, numbers wise. As long as m+ players can keep up with raiders, everyone is happy.

i’m all for it i sure would be here alot less. they just need to quit with the we want to slow you down stuff. cause people who can’t control themselves in a game are just going to find whatever and just keep going. and i love just being able to go crazy on some days and some not.

honestly KSM I think the 220ilvl cap is fine. But I do believe there should be another cap at +20.

Clearing previous tiers in conjunction with the current tier because EN or Nighthold has a busted trinket/tier set was annoying as hell.

Being a heroic guild that gets midway or late CE was boring as hell, because the heroic gear would titanforge to mythic before it dropped on mythic.

Having everyone skip m0-9 because warfronts/vendors/emissary/corruption gear over inflated gear to the point that you had to run the hardest content to upgrade low-mid tier gear was annoying.

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I was surprised when they announced they were going to make M+ loot more scarce in Shadowlands, I did not agree with that at all. What makes things even worse is the loss of Warforged items after raiders complained about it, Blizzard should have just removed Warforged from raids and left it in M+.

First thing of trinkets got nerfed pretty fast the cd reduct one and that other for warriors in nighthold blizz kinda learned their lesson on evergreen trinkets there

Second point really dude? your complaining you had too much ilvl that mythic was boring, maybe you should have like moved on to mythic earlier lol your like those dudes that are saying “m+15 is easy” of course its easy at 225 ilvl.

And your third point is irrelevant couse if you skipped m2-m9 you eventually hit a stop because you got rekt by mechanics so you just got good and kept on gearing

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