I would never use a LFG, random queue system for keys. I’m barely willing to do it for heroics.
An automated system by definition runs on logic. There is no altruism or sentimental consideration at all. It’s a first-in, first-out system that runs on the same numerical metric currently used by Raider IO. It is the players who are invested in the current system who are impervious to reason. They would prefer to maintain a system that runs on instinct and feeling rather than reason, even when said system would not be excluded from the game.
A hilarious disaster. I support a mythic+ queue system because I want to watch the forum have a meltdown.
Your heart is in the right place, you’re just picking the wrong solution to the problem. Your system gates players just as much, if not more. At least with the LFG, I’ll get tanks to apply. That will never happen in your system.
Undo the drums nerf. The most annoying affixes are generally more punishing to melee than ranged, so adjust that. Boom…there you go.
You can do it manual and still get bad players. I don’t understand why people act like picking manually will 100% get them a good team.
If you don’t want an automatic system then you could do it manually. Let the rest of the people play how they want. This sounds like a “Other people want it but I don’t so lets not do it.”
a matchmaking queue would be nice yes. thing is with single handedly selecting whos coming to you key and who isnt. is like so i will use a server as an example no name. Quel’thalas…they have 220 iL awsome they know what to do and when, right?.. WRONG, they play thier character like they just bought it, im all for matchmaking for m0 and m2 keys but nothing higher then that as i have run into so many players that buy thier progression and item level with a credit card then progress to tell you how much your crap and yet they dont follow mechanics, cant interupt, cant pull more then 1K dps at iL 220. etc… if blizzard was to add a matmaking system based off thier new rank system coming in there is alot of things they need to clean up first…those WTS ads on raid/dungeon listing to start with, anyone who bought a paid carry with RL Currency then go from there.
I dont want my content nerfed if blizzard put in a que for mythic plus. 100% guarantee within less than a week of something like this the forums would be filled with people complaining all they get is fail group after fail group. Blah blah this is to hard blah blah blah everyone I get into que with is garbage, wah wah wah.
If all you wanna do is heroic ques and random pvp or wq theb good on more power to ya im glad you enjoy that, if you wanna move past that then deal with the fact blizzard aint gonna hold your hand anymore
Can we stop adding systems to the game that take away human interaction, please? This would be a disaster in every sense.
Hey guys the batch of popcorn is not ready for this yet. Let it come first then we can dig in
Trying to include everyone is the altruism. Where it fails is that you’d be dividing the playerbase, leading to insane wait times on both sides of the fence. You’ve offered zero incentive for tanks or healers to use this system, when they already have enough abuse heaped on them in content that you CANT fail. You have failed to address the inundation of nerfs m+ would see to get the completion rate in queued content to a state Blizzard would be satisfied with. And at the end of the day you’ve said its somehow an algorithm that puts together a group with the proper covenant, the right group utility, and its also somehow a first in first out system?
Queued m+ wouldn’t work outside of it being a spectator event. Light knows we humans love us a glorious train wreck.
based it off the same ranking system as PVP…you know yourself when your thrown into a 1.8K+ bracket those players know exactly what to do and once in a bluw moon do you run into a headless chickens running around not knowing what to do. theres many things they can try and tweak it along the way. keep the current system. but add another system based around the matchmaking of our high pvp brackets sort of thing
Yall act like its some monumental feat to throw your key up on the lfg and get a group going its insane.
Splitting the playerbase leads to longer queue times for both sides. Adding m+ to LFD would lead to infinite nerfs so Blizzard wouldn’t need to field complaints forever. Mythic + queue is like communism: on paper its great, but it doesn’t work in the real world.
Many people seem extremely fearful of even a little bit of social interaction with other people.
That’s true of course, but pugging keys is like gambling. If you play the odds, you have a higher chance of success. I don’t think most people really have a problem with something like this going into the game as most people wouldn’t use it, but that’s the problem with it. Why would a tank ever use that? They get to do whatever key they want, whenever they want.
will never know if it works or not…if its never tried. They didnt draw a circle on the ground and say “we will call this a wheel, but if we make it, it wont work in the real world”. they made it and it worked. leave the system as it is. dont nerf it just add another system for m0 and m2 nothing higher. you know yourself your not gonna be queuing a M 20+ key in a Random dungeon queue. no one will…but a mythic 0/2 for sure.
It’s hard to comprehend how bad of an idea this is.
Why would any tanks or healers use this system, though? Some things don’t really need to be made to know they won’t work.
They should do it for a week since there’s nothing else to do right now. Let’s have some fireworks!
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Yeah this. Tanks (and heals to a lesser degree) can get any group they want. Why would they queue for a roll of the dice? You’d have 98% DPS in hours+ long queues.