Groups aren’t a system. They’re just groups.
So now I can basically get a few guildies, join a pug raid, kick the leader through a vote, and take over his pug raid ?
Because you want vote to kick in manually formed groups ?
It.
Will.
Never.
Happen.
Fup earlier suggested a penalty for people leaving completion groups. As for those stats, think it’s relatively pointless. People who pug lots will have low completion rates.
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Tell that to the OP. He’s the one who has an unacceptably high rate of players leaving. He is his own problem.
Wow this is actually sad lmao
If the leader runs anything above 22s, it’s going to be 90%.
And so what ?
Having a “completion rate” stat only punishes people who push higher and higher. Failing is part of the game.
But as we’ve established, there is no such thing as a “completion” group. Just like there isn’t a “ilvl 280+” group. It’s just a group.
Nothing from Group Finder fields carries over to the “group” itself.
doesn’t punish people, just a potentially cool and troll enabling stat for people to obsess over.
and those trolls should be punished for it, now you’re caught up.
OP and Evil are both from Malganis
I disagree. I think the OP would have more trouble finding players to fill his fail groups if they were aware he has a high rate of failure.
People keep bringing up punishments for players who routinely join groups and quit to troll them. I don’t think that’s a big problem at all. The OP is very argumentative. I can imagine people leaving his groups routinely.
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Yea, nothing carries over now, but adding something that does, is fine with me.
Like they added the ability to set those tags instead of just letting people type “completion.”
Woa we got a regular Sherlock over here, two random guys from a massive popular horde server it must be a conspirrrrrracy!
That’s called a Queue.
Group Finder isn’t a queue.
Ask for a queue.
Then wait in it forever for all I care.
Hence, why earlier in the thread we asked for up to mythic+10 to be added to the LFD to address all of our issues, I’m glad you can finally come to the same conclusion though.
And then I’ll say no to that. Imagine if you have leavers now with manually vetted people, who much leavers you’ll have in a queue.
hence why the account wide hour long debuff would be in that system and it wouldn’t impact people running keys the way they do now.
We know you will because you’re one of the trolls leaving groups, that much is obvious.
Making queues even worse. I’ll grab 3 buddies, we’ll join, and then start kicking people giving them account wide 1 hour debuffs.
“Hi, I’m Evilbadguy, I hate trolling so I want trolls to have more ways to troll people”.
This guy.
Because everytime a queue is added, people scream for nerfs.
+2 to +10 keys are fine. If you can’t do them, it’s you, it’s not the game.
We know you would because you’re already trolling the system now 
I agree they are fine just plagued with leavers, there’s no need to nerf them they can be added to LFD the way they are.
Why would I waste my time in a fail group?
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Because you signed up for that group, why should they all suffer because you decided to leave and not finish what you signed up for?
Here’s the issue with that solution. If there is a deserter lenalty for leaving, but not for vote kick, anyone who wants to leave is gonna hard throw until they get vote kicked.
If you add a penalty to vote kicking, what’s stopping someone from forming a group with 4 of their friends, starting the key and applying deserter to everyone they find.
If your argument is that you don’t think many people would troll by applying deserter, my argument would be that not many people leave keys where they can find any level of success. The troll leavers and the troll vote kickers are the same people, except with the vote kick system you give them a LOT more power.