You still do explore while up in the air and discover new areas.

It does cut it. You have the option to chose on whether you want to fly or use a ground mount! Nobody is forcing you to use a flying mount and fly around.
You still do explore while up in the air and discover new areas.

It does cut it. You have the option to chose on whether you want to fly or use a ground mount! Nobody is forcing you to use a flying mount and fly around.
Bull. I love flying around and exploring when I am bored.
Are you asking to get a reward every time you walk somewhere?
Like, what’s the opinion here?
Fake news.
OK, you’re saying this about a game that was possibly the first to release flight in BC. Then wrath was designed with flight in mind and what happened? 13 million people thought flight was the best thing ever.
So please take that tired argument out of here.
Pathfinder still exists.
Skyriding is not limited because it’s their compromise.
We didn’t need another thread on this.
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You can choose to explore and discover on the ground. What’s stopping you?
That’s because most games aren’t MMOs that have you going all over the world multiple times a week for years. Most games are one and done. Apples to oranges.
Pathfinder was a punishment to the players for not allowing Blizzard to completely remove flying.
You can still use a ground mount for 6-8 months.
So you admit you can’t have fun on the ground unless everybody is there with you.
Get better bait.
That’s just flat out false. I’d even venture to say exploration and discovery are greatly enhanced by flying.
I’d be all for having flying restricted initially … if we didn’t already get Skyriding from the get-go.
Pathfinder is just pointless now given that we have a much superior form of flying available to use from the start.
You do not, you just view those areas from a distance.
Strawman. That is not what I wrote.
That I like WoW and therefore I want to play it, face a challenge, including that of exploration. I do not view WoW as a chore to be done with as fast as possible. Unlike most players these days, it seems.
At the time flying was expensive and still an endgame unlock, most people only got it after they’d played quite a lot of the expansion. It was also designed so that unlocking flying gave you access to new areas, it was baked into the design of the game.
13 million people thought WotlK was great, that doesn’t mean flying was “the best thing ever” that everyone had on their mind while playing it. And it was still at a time where you likely didn’t have access to it early on.
You know what I meant.
Skyriding is not a compromise, it’s even faster than regular flight. Although I will say that it’s strange that they’d lock one and not the other.
Already addressed in the original post.
So what you’re saying is that flying is good after you’ve explored the world on foot? That’s Pathfinder.
No. Just, factually no.
Not what I said.
That I completely agree with
If you’re doing that, then that is seriously a “you problem”
What?
How many times can you “discover” something when you’ve already played the content?
You want to waste my time because maybe, just maybe you’ll find something you haven’t seen 18 months into the xpac?
You knock your own argument down with this comment.
Strawman. Dont be obtuse.
Yes it is. Its awesome.
Not true. I just expore faster and its more enjoyable. You dont have to fly. You do realize thjat right?
You just dont want others to have fun flying. Its a you issue not flying
You really think anybody wants that? That it doesn’t go any deeper than that? That maybe I know what I want and meant what I said?
I really don’t.
No I think its what you want. You DO NOT and let me repeat it to be crystal clear, have to fly. Its a choice you make. You just want it removed so others cant have fun flying and are stuck on the ground with you.
NO ONE and I mean NO ONE is forcing you to fly. Its a you issue not a flying issue.
I’m sure this kind of tone convinces many people you talk to.
I like the mechanics of flying in game. I find it fun, especially the races. But you are right, it does bypass exploration, I mean the fact that we fly right over stuff we cant even see is “Duh” proof of that.
While there are places to find and hidden discoveries to find with flying mounts, it defnitely makes us bypass finding things on the ground.
Humans in general act like water. That is to say, they will take the path of least resistance (do what is easiest). And ya you are right. If flying makes things easy (as it does) then most players will bypass it. Its more efficient to fly than to ground mount.
I am not sure if Blizz “realized their mistake” in as much as they used pathfinder to fill that roll of not allowing players to rush through stuff by flying. Once unlocked/achieved, then players could go at a faster pace. I see blizzards decision as a way to slow the content consumption down in the beginning, but allow for it to be sped up for alts/once the player has consumed it once.
There is something to say about slower placed gameplay that puts everyone on the same x,y axis vs up in the air where you see players less. But it also depends on the maps design.
Overall I agree with your post. Most here won’t, I don’t think they understand/care for the value of smelling the roses so to speak. This is something that often comes with age.
Pathfinder isn’t really Pathfinder anymore. You just play the game/campaign once to unlock steady flight. Ez peazy