Any tips? My AOE is very high, but my single target is very low, and it pulls my overall DPS way down. I’m almost always lowest DPS in the group.
How low are we talking? MM’s ST won’t be on par with its AoE.
It pulls me down to be the lowest DPS. I did 8.3k overall DPS on an 18 Spires, but we also had 23 deaths, so that didn’t help
In dungeons you would be generally better off as Kyrian with Surging Shots or, if you wanna stay NF, go with Antlers/Unity. (edit: i didnt see you were Kyrian already )
However, MMs ST isnt that great and without 4pc bonus its just bad. Your job in the dungeon is not to kill the bosses, but to delete the trash packs.
He’s running SS and Kyrian I thought?
And yeah, 8.3 for a ST isn’t too bad. Is it your maximum single-target dps? No. Does it really matter? Also no.
This pretty much.
8.3k is overall dps
I forgot what my single target was on the boss, but it’s considerably lower. I think it was sometthing like 4-5k dps, but I gotta go check next time
On big mob pulls, I top out at 30k dps, which brings my overall dps up
But then boss battles, my ST is so low that it brings it down to 8.3k overall dps
Ohhhh yeah, 4-5k is pretty low even for MM, especially at your gear level. I’d expect somewhere in the realm of 8-10k depending on how long the boss stays alive.
I can’t really tell you what to do since IDK what you’re doing, but there’s some pretty nice guides on youtube rn that would help you iron out your ST rotation.
I’m going to record my next mythic and post it here
Just switch to SV and do more damage both ST and AOE
I have the wrong legendary, but I’m just waiting for a necklace to drop
MM st has been terrible this whole expac, it will get a bit better with the 4set.
but 8.3k overall with your gear? unacceptable, you’re 100% doing something wrong with your priority/rotation in both aoe and ST.
There already are a few of your dungeons locked, for example this DOS run:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CN3WxmPVX6rZy1wM#fight=1&type=casts&source=4&view=timeline
Dont take this as flaming, but since you wanted to post this anyway, im just going to give you some hints:
Im looking at the very first pull.
Your IQD is used waaay too early. You use it at around 21,5 seconds into the dungeon and your first major damaging shot (an Aimed) hits at about 30 seconds in. So you have already lost a major part of your trinkets uptime. The same goes for Trueshot. You dont need Trueshot up while you put down Explo, RA and Volley, it is only there for your Aimeds and Rapid Fire.
Double Tap shouldnt be in there anyway, but it should be used a whole lot earlier on the way to the pack. It should look something like this:
Double Tap (on the way) - Explo - RA - Volley - Trueshot/Trinket - RF - Aimed - Aimed.
This way, your Explo goes boom during RA, you maximise your TS usage and you should also use your Double Tap on RF anyway as Kyrian with Surging and Streamline. Every time use DT for RF with your setup.
Then, under Trueshot, you are using way too many Multishots. As long as Volley and Trueshot are running, you dont want to use any MS at all, you want to fit 1 RF and 2 Aimeds into your Volley, only after that you are allowed to use MS again, but also only once to make sure your Aimeds and RF have Trickshots up.
So in your first pull, you use one Aimed under Volley, then 2 MS which you dont need at that time because you already have Trickshots from Volley, then one RF and after that (Cardinal Sin!) an Aimed without Trickshots. You also repeat the same pattern after that, casting an Aimed without Trickshots on the major pack at the start.
The major thing you have to do is get your cooldown windows under control. You waste large parts of you Trueshot with Arcanes or Multishots and barely use your Volleys. You usually only use one or maybe two abilities with Volley’s Trickshot buff, this needs to go up.
And a minor thing: You often only gather one or two of Pelagos’ orbs from RA. Mykanos is a perfectly fine alternative if you dont feel like you can constistently get all those orbs.
For ST, looking at the fight vs Dealer Xy’asdas (ca. 900 seconds into the dungeon):
The start is good, as it should be: DT - Explo - RA - RF - Aimed.
Then you go on with two Multishots, while the Urh guy is the only add there.
A bit later, you get into Trueshot and you sin again: You TS at 950 and your first Aimed after that comes at 958. Again wasting a whole lot of that CD. Dont use all your Precise Shots during TS, you want to prioritise to get as many Aimeds and RF in there as possible.
Ok so:
Double Tap
Explosive Shot
Resonating Arrow
Volley
Trueshot
IQD
Rapid Fire
then spam Aimed Shot
That is your opening when you have all CDs ready.
You need to make sure that all your Aimeds and RF are buffed with Trickshots. The first casts are buffed by Volley, but after the first few, you need to weave in a Multishot between all casts, at least in packs.
If Trueshot isnt currently active, you should try to use up all your stacks of Precise Shots as well.
MM ST is bad, its not just you.
if u want to do reasonable ST then just go surv
I’ve always used Multi-Shot when “Precise Shots” was active instead of spamming Aimed Shot. I think this is what was dragging me down the most
My main struggle as a new MM hunter (I’ve run probably 3-4 keys after the switch from BM) is single target boss fights with downtime - Devos for example - that isn’t long enough to recover CDs. So after my initial burst, which I have down pat, I struggle with resetting to my main ST rotation without the fall off being too hard. BM needs next to no CD recovery and thus doesn’t require the shift.
That awkward moment when MM was invited to carry, ended up getting carried.
Also, yeah, that.
There are plenty of others ST specs in the game. But as MM, especially with tier, you’re expected to be rather consistent 15-18k on every pack, and with CDs 20+. At ST, my 255 hunter (MM Fae) sits at roughly 8k.
It’s usually the tank and healer who speed the kills up during st moments, and probably one dps at most. Thanks Blizz for making meta talents for most dps specs different for AoE and ST! Meaningful choice
Btw, MM st isn’t awful, but the meta M+ talents and legendaries, it’s not insane even with 4 set. You make up for that by pulling >60k on trash packs every 6 minutes!
As stated above, the moment you get the 2set your ST improves a bit since volley will become a ST talent as well.
Whenever you get the 4set, i belive your ST will become actually decent (still haven’t gotten mine, but on paper it should be a solid increase in damage output)
And yes, our role in keys is to nuke trash, burst aoe is our specialty.