Played it and never watched a single cutscene. Most of them are meh
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And dont get me started in reading every single lines. If i want to read I’d buy a book and not play a game
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No they havnt. Theyve admitted failure, and errors, but they actually believe in their game.
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Absolutely devastating 
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Honestly, I feel like Minesweeper demolishes WoW’s current lore at this point.
I still prefer WoW to any other MMORPG and I’m glad the lore isn’t what mainly drives my enjoyment of the game.
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I’ve said it before I’ll say it again FF14 functions better as a visual novel than a MMORPG
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It’s funny watching people who tend to get red in the face get upset when FF14 players correct them on statements that just scream “Didn’t play past 50.” Yet if you criticize WoW they are equally as sycophantic if not worse about it.
Bottom line, people like their games and don’t like criticisms being leveled against them that are even remotely borne about of clear uneducation about the game. Like if you say WoW’s combat is just a chaotic mess of slapping the keyboard constantly with no rhyme or reason, they’ll get mad and tell you “You have rotations and so much things to do pressing your 5 relevant keybinds for combat! You’re just bad!” Just as FFXIV players are quick to point out criticisms of the low end of combat mostly go away when you actually level and are doing a lot within the GCD windows through 0gcd weaving. I.E playing Ninja semi competently.
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God, the end section of Endwalker was gut punch after gut punch. Even if you had a pretty good idea how it was all going to resolve itself in the end it still absolutely hurt to watch. Barely made it through “the long walk” because I couldn’t control the tears.
WoW you can literally lose any NPC and I’m not going to care, in Endwalker it actually felt like hearing your best friend died in their sleep. There’s something about how easily you can get attached to characters that are competently written and actually have a huge presence in your experience.
Or just at the tail end of the final solo duty and your character is reflecting on all the big places your adventure had taken you. It just really hits you emotionally as you are sat there thinking of how it felt experiencing those areas for the first time and how you knew every single one of those areas and all the events that happened at them.
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This really makes a difference to a story and it is something that FFXIV did really well. Even with their Villains. One minute you hate them and the next you understand why they behaved the way they did. Not one person felt that way about the Jailer. I doubt anyone cared that he was gone.
One thing that I really appreciated about the FFXIV story was the fact that when the developers wrote the two parts where you reflected, they were asking if you enjoyed it not only as a hero, but as a person playing their game.
But I get that this type of MMORPG isn’t for everyone, especially people who have been conditioned to race to the end like wow players. 
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Yeah, like it was hard to hate a lot of villains. Especially like Emet-Selch who is written as well, an Ascian so you’re supposed to hate him. Towards the end you actually sympathize with him because through careful writing you see he isn’t just “I’m evil to be evil!” He has his own goals that you can actually understand why he’s doing things. Even more so when you realize he was so dedicated to restoring the shards to try and have the old way of life that he was “the architect of many imperially inclined nations.”
Or Zenos, he went from most hated character to being really good in a short span. I was laughing at the end when he shows up and you can see he has such a weird level of reverence for the character with the whole “I take it this is your prey. . . but why does it still live? Surely it is no match for you. I believed you above something to banal as despair, am I mistaken?” Like yeah, all he wants is an epic fight which is selfish, but he’s so focused on that he’s willing to do both good and bad to make that fight the best it can. Saves the universe he doesn’t give a single damn about JUST so he can have a Kaiba-esque salty runback. And that dude was so single minded on that he invented a time machine for no other purpose than to go back to Ancient Egypt and duel Atem one more time to try and win.
They care a lot about the story and it shows. FFS the end cutscene for Ktesis Hyperborea at what, 87 I think, is like 25 minutes long. There is so much more stage setting, emotion, and effort put into just that ONE of MANY cutscenes than the entirety of all cutscenes of Shadowlands combined. Blizzard literally “wrapped up their 20 year story” with this mastermind villain who orchestrated everything Warcraft supposedly behind the scenes with a one minute cheap cutscene that basically amounts to “You fools, I was trying to save us from what is to come!”
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I don’t know how anyone could get all the way to the end of Endwalker and expect a single scion not to come back.
Also it’s a little disturbing how the game glorified Hydaelyn genociding her own race to impose her world view. Shes the biggest villian of the series but gets so much love.
OMG, our stalker! The twists and turns the writers put into the ending of their story were amazing! Just when you thought the story was done… it wasn’t! You’re even happy to see the stalker when he shows up! lol.
This is what annoyed me the most (well besides what they did to Arthas). It was so disappointing. I do think what disappointed me the most though was the fact that You didn’t even have to participate in killing him. You just watched a movie about it. There was a time when you did not progress or see the ending unless you fought the boss. Now the developers care so little about their game that they just give you a really bad movie and poof, you’re done.
So disappointing.
Lmao, all of these comments are so ridiculous like seriously FF14 story is forgettable at best and it’s music is also forgettable and it’s game play is clunky and lazily designed. Also, it’s design is so fundamentally flawed and it’s aesthetic is ugly compared to any of the modern World of Warcraft zones which I will undoubtedly say is 10X times better than those of FF14 design.
Also, that game has some of the most laziest races and unimaginative at all and most of them looks ugly and not even cool compared to World of Warcraft. When World of Warcraft has better race options and design on each races. Also, FF14 classes are so boring and not even good and it’s animation are literally the worst looking VFX compared to World of Warcraft.
So nice try on painting World of Warcraft as a bad game when it does more things right than wrong. Also, this game (World of Warcraft) has better looking zones and aesthetic and better Quality of life systems like it’s Transmog is accountwide and it’s mount is also accountwide and it’s pets too. Did I mention Flying in world of Warcraft doesn’t have loading screen when entering a new zones. So yah nice try on trashing World of Warcraft. One last thing , World of Warcraft has some of the best and memorable music than any other mmo out there in the market.
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You’re playing WoW, a story so forgettable the developers constantly forget their own rules and retcon them to make way for some new BS they want to throw out for an expansion to sell.
I have a solid feeling I could pick an assortment of random music from WoW and you wouldn’t even be able to place half of them correctly. You play an FF14 track to me and I know EXACTLY where it is at.
Shame I don’t know of a game like that geo-locator one someone made one day for music otherwise I’d have you play that and share your results. I trust you’d be honest enough to share genuine ones and not just keep taking guesses until you got a decent score.
Except that’s one of the biggest criticisms about the game prior to Shadowlands is the customization was still very dated and outclassed by every other MMO on market.
Not gonna bother dissecting the rest of this drivel, it’s very clear you’re more emotionally charged with this post of yours than objective. I can at least give WoW the little bits of credit it is due, in a different thread comparing the two games on various departments I gave a pretty fair assessment on a lot of categories that were vague like “Questing Experience” and said "Well if you define “questing experience like this, then this game, if you define it that way, then that game.” "
I guarantee you right now actually, I am the only person on this forum who has both cleared a Mythic raid in WoW and TEA in FFXIV and can be objective when talking about differences in raid design and combat between the two games. Most people who just blindly scream “WoW better raiding” aren’t even clearing Heroic, and if they are it’s five months into the tier. Then their FFXIV experience boils down to “Lol I never made it past ARR but I will compare the universally agreed worst portion of the game to modern WoW.”
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WoW fanboys are the ones that s**t on WoW the most because they recognize where the game is awful.
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Eh I don’t know about that, read the post above my last one. That guy is very much “WOW BEST EVER!” without any actual points of contention.
Most WoW fanboys are very eh, what do I want to define it as here. . . hypocritical maybe? A lot of them I will give will attack WoW when it’s warranted, however if you use their arguments to compare WoW to another game, suddenly they have next to no criticisms about WoW and suddenly it’s the greatest thing ever.
It really is kind of bizarre, it’s like a team sport really. I can acknowledge faults with both WoW and FFXIV and when comparing the two I will mention them, others though act like they didn’t just spend the last week screaming about the awful storywriting of the game and instead are like “No the story is actually really good, XIV’s is bad!”
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I dunno, I’ve yet to see anyone say WoW’s story is amazing in a FF14 thread. What actually happens is someone points out FF14’s story isn’t as great as people claim it is, and the response is usually “oh yea, and you think WoW’s is so good???” No, we just think FF14’s story isn’t that great.
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I don’t understand why people who claim to like wow so much they absolutely despise people who play FF are starting so many more threads about FF than FF fans here. Why are you sending traffic to FF, OP?
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Yeah sure keep on defending FF14 when everyone knows it’s a trash game compared to World of Warcraft. And to think any of the music in that game is any good you’re delusional and also, it’s music is C-tier at best and not B-tier or even A-tier that’s how bad their music really are. And sure keep on defending its “proclaimed” story when it’s so boring and unimaginative and uncreative like at all.
To say that FF14 is superior in every way imaginable and on every category oh please that game does a boat load of trash ideas. And I doubt that game can beat World of Warcraft on all of its categories. But sure defend your new found mmo and worship it like it a messiah. When it’s not even top tier nor does anything perfect like World of Warcraft does.
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It’s not quite the norm but it does happen, you see some really interesting arguments that feel like they’re made solely out of a “defend the hive” mentality. Maybe in retrospect it’s not exactly an apt thing to say because first of all few people use the forums in the first place, and I think on these topics by now we’ve seen the same probably what, 15 names actively posting?
There’s a level 10 human either warrior or paladin from Classic, that guy is like that. So given the lack of an actual audience within these topics it could boil down to cherrypicking, or at the least seem that way when you’re pointing out the same like 6 people despite being half of the active posters within these discussions.
It also doesn’t really help that in these discussions, because they are so team-sport focused you do get a lot of sheltered viewpoints. There’s a night elf druid who posted in this thread that I’ll be honest, I have zero respect for anything they say because they clearly do not know what they’re talking about. However rather than actually address points they just call me a troll which is why I have no respect for them. They dismissed me first, so I dismiss them back. Vicious cycle and all. I think that’s the crux of the volatility in these discussions, both sides have a wealth of people that are just very hiveminded and refuse to listen to what other people do have to say about something, and if they can’t give a retort they dismiss it or ignore it.
Bottom line, people are way too emotionally driven to have a discussion that kind of hinges on objectivity. Obviously on a WoW forum people will praise WoW above all else usually, and you’ll get the same with an FFXIV forum.