My argument for adding High Elves to the Alliance

[Hecatone-burning-legion (Hecatone)]

Rox is taking a break. Let’s let them cool off.

[Hecatone-burning-legion (Hecatone)]

Try practicing brushing your teeth with your left hand.
I find it builds patience for frustration.

Ha! I’m ambidextrous!

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

Have a good night!

I know I come to that realization more and more myself, I just find I have to step back, find a more positive thread to participate and remember when I see the people I’ve been arguing with, it helps when you see them outside of this fight, like in a cooking thread or something. We’re all passionate about this, just gotta remember we’re all more than just our opinion on elf flavors.

[Broflake-illidan]

The first part got me scared there because I thought you were going to quote volume without consideration of percentiles.
That is correct, and while 8.7% is significant, I would not considered it statistically significant to be concerned over seeing as a large difference.
If it were vanilla wow and it was a difference of 65 to 35 Iw ould then be considered because the difference there would be nearly 2 to 1.

Ha! I’m left ambidextrous!

I STILL CANT DO IT!

[Midare-area-52 (Midare)]

We don’t care about your opinion either, and neither should the devs. Horde players simply should not factor into this discussion at all. Your opinion concerning things Alliance players get is irrelevant.

Should they then pay attention to the Alliance players that are also tired of the topic or oppose High Elves?

And also, next time I see an Alliance player complaining about a Horde racial, I’m quoting this, thank you

[Hecatone-burning-legion (Hecatone)]

I STILL CANT DO IT!

I favor my left hand for most things, but when i was a kid I went to a private school… They tied my left hand to my desk so I’d learn to use my right hand. So I guess I’m not really ambidextrous but ya’ know.

You should see me type, I do it like a psycho.

[Broflake-illidan]

Do you type with your arms crossing over the other or with a single digit?

[Lacryma-wyrmrest-accord (Lacryma)]

wohrherwjhq’tyjkerj’nomi—

I tried what you suggested. As you can see, I had to stop before I completed in Shath’yar, the World Ending Spell and summoned the Herald of End Times; Firelord Nomi. A world of charred ash and burnt food is not my idea of happiness.

[Oreahna-moon-guard]

So…blood elf players are not affected that their unique character stops being unique because players on a DIFFERENT faction want the same thing?

Nope. Not at all.

[Broflake-illidan]

I laughed.

Nope. Not at all.

I laughed again.

[Hecatone-burning-legion (Hecatone)]

Do you type with your arms crossing over the other or with a single digit?

No but I do it really really fast with two fingers and one thumb on each hand, leaning over the keyboard fingers flying everywhere. I look like the pianist from Charlie Brown. I’m a straight picture thinker (I can only think in words if i mouth the words to the things I’m thinking, like I’m talking to myself - I can’t even read without doing it) so I never look at the screen because I can clearly see what I’m typing in my head. In order to get the words going I make grunts and partial word sounds and don’t realize that I’m doing it or how loud I’m being.

[Drede-cairne (Drede)]

They are still wrapped in each other’s story lol. Stop being dishonest.

I’m not.

Starting to see that you say people are lying when you’re cornered.

Do they have opposite cultures? Yes.

Are they enemies? Yes.

No lies.

You mean for the brief time of TBC before going back after the sunwell was restored?

Their development wasn’t undone just because they had their main problem fixed.

They just don’t need to Mana Vampire anymore.

They are the same as high elves outside politics.

Sure. Keep restarting this falsehood. I’m sure it will get you somewhere at some point.

Because Blood Elves would rather live with Humans and Dwarves right?

Because Blood Elves accept Half Elves right?

Because Blood Elves oppose the dangerous use of magic right?

Because Blood Elves view feeding off of living things just to survive as horrible and disgusting right?

The list goes on.

“Only political” is a straight up lie easily dismissed.

I missed the part where dark iron dwarves and nightborne and every other allied race NPC became super different from the PC versions. kappa.

Because you misread the point again.

They add new things to races before they become playable. High Elves haven’t gotten this yet.

And it’s literally a major complaint how different the Nightborne are form the NPCs…

They are the exact same according to the lore and devs.

Sure. Keep saying that. lol

Again, you’re being horribly dishonest. Ion said it as well, “different eye color.” which means nothing because the lore states the eye color is due to magic usage.

And they used different magics. Thus why their eye/skin/hair colors are different.

That’s lore and development rather you agree with it or not.

I haven’t dismissed them, I countered them.

What have you countered exactly?

Saying “They are the same!” over and over isn’t a counter.

no, I did not state you were lying, I stated you were dishonest which are two very big things. To lye is where you state something flat out false. When you are being dishonest, it is where you intentionally leave out aspects of the truth, or refuse to acknowledge facts because it is inconvenient to you.

Still childish no matter how you want to spin it.

Everyone can scroll up and see I don’t care about aesthetics aside from them making lore sense.

Trying to catch me in some imaginary falsehood to try and make your case seem legit will get you nowhere.

high elves said “I don’t want to eat the ham sandwich.”
Blood elves said “I will eat it.”

Man, you really don’t give any importance to the lore.

Stating it over and over does not make it the same. I have demonstrated how they are the same by pointing out their behaviors, ideals, etc etc.

You haven’t done that at any point actually lol

Demonstrate how they are different besides stating they are different. It isn’t an acceptable answer no matter how many times you state it.

Okey but you will just dismiss it again.

They have different Hair/Eye/Skin Colors do to Fel Corruption.

They live in completely different locations.

They integrate with other cultures and aren’t reclusive like Blood Elves.

They do not seek power for powers sake like Blood Elves.

They accept Hunters and Blood Elves look down on them.

You do alot of mixing and assuming motivation wise, stick to the argument, you’re bad at it but you’re less bad at it.

You’re the one trying to paint me as “Dishonest” because you don’t believe my motivations.

I’m talking about lore/story/themes and why they are important but you say I don’t care about them because it fits your arguments.

You say

I am not a blood elf fan.

But you speak for them?

But then try and call me out like you know better? Ridiculous.

• I did not say I did not care about them.
• Those are two mutually exclusive ideas.

This is true but you’re trying to say they would somehow be hurt but dismiss that a lot of Blood Elf fans are also High Elf fans?

I don’t care.

Then why should I take your opinion on the subject? lol

You’re trying to argue now that if you’re a high elf fan you know the differences but someone else won’t? I guess someone cannot understand the behavior of light through the atmosphere unless they have a Ph.D in Physics?

That isn’t what I said at all.

You’re trying to make a case that Blood Elf fans would be hurt. I pointed out that there are contradictions to that because being a Blood Elf fan and a High Elf fan are not exclusive things and that people can like both groups for their differences.

[Oreahna-moon-guard]

Oh poor thing. His elf is not a delicate snowflake. Unique and special

[Midare-area-52 (Midare)]

You know what I miss? The ignore function.

To be fair, I’ve only had 1 person on ignore, but I would have like to have the chance to add a second to that.

[Ruterot-barthilas]

Why don’t people like my elves who are perfect and have never done anything wrong and have all the powers and are better than other elves? Nuance is for casuals.

I dunno if the snowflake argument is a rabbit hole a helfer wants to go down, me lover.

[Drede-cairne (Drede)]

Figured I would share this again and try and steer the subject back on track.

Some general ideas for developing High Elves.

General Concepts
-Tattoos/Warpaint like Alleria.
-Different Hair/Facial hair styles (Less fancy) with Blue/White hair colors and no red hair color.
-Blue Eyes/Purple Eyes. (Duh!)
-Dark Skin options (Like Devi)

Possible Additions/Alterations/Options-
-Some Short Eared/Eyebrowed versions for Half Elves.
-Different idle stances. Like between Female Night Elves/Nightborne.
-Slightly different physique. Possibly buffer/metier than the average Blood Elf because they mostly live in the forest and/or highly Militarised. About as different as Nightborne males from Night Elf males or less so. Or based on Night Elf models.
-More practical building designs. Like altered versions of the Lodges. (Like the WC2 Lumber Mill.) Or just dalaran.
-Celtic themes to tie it all together. (Like in WC2)
-Woodsmen themed Heritage Armor. (Like in WC2…)

Posible Classes-
-Warrior, Hunter, Mage, Priest. Highly likely.
-Rogue, Paladin, Monk. Likely.
-Shaman, Druid. Unlikely but possible with new lore additions.
-Warlock. Highly Unlikely. (We have one NPC who might not even be a Warlock)
-Death Knight, Demon Hunter. Straight up no because no Allied Races get hero classes. (Death Knight might be possible in the future.)

[Oreahna-moon-guard]

Nice try.

I’m gonna tell you a secret, hunny.

You feel offended because I tell the truth in a funny way (for me). There’s not more to it

[Ruterot-barthilas]

Nice try.

I stopped reading it past here but I assume the rest of it is congratulating me for winning the argument.

[Hecatone-burning-legion (Hecatone)]

I laughed again.

Oh poor thing. His elf is not a delicate snowflake. Unique and special

Trolling Broflake makes him stronger, you’re only improving your enemie’s armor.

[Oreahna-moon-guard]

Yes yes there it is