None of you cry babies calling for nerfs can ever defend your horrible takes.
your class did too much dmg, it needed toned down. That is my take that i am now defending
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Honestly gross how much you hunters have complained.
Each nerf the class has received has been mandatory because the class has been broken so many times so far in SoD.
Some classes haven’t been nerfed once. Those classes should be complaining. Not the class that has consistently required nerfs since November
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Weird. My class got entirely reworked because people like you couldn’t stop crying on the forums. Not just nerfed multiple times, reworked entirely.
So many people are quitting because of people like you. We cant take the crying.
Numbers matter brother. WCL do not lie. PVP dps is its own category and blizz needs to add PVP specific modifiers to fix pvp imbalances. Next, according to raw WCL dmg, destro lock and fire mages need a 30% nerf as well. this will make hunter, Destro lock and fire mages all do 380 which is STILL 5% stronger above every SINGLE OTHER CLASS. This is called balance. If you do not support that then you are clearly someone who just wants to be OP and stomp everything and are upset you cant anymore. there genuinely is no counter argument here. it is what it is and numbers/math dont lie or have feelings
Warrior was outdpsing melee hunter on 5/6 bosses prenerf.
You actually cant justify this with wcl. They were performing well collectively because of the easy rotation. This nerf doesnt make sense for pve. Expect a lot of people to quit.
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Do me a favor and go look at wcl where there is raw data of the best and most sweaty players in SoD WoW. Go look at each class/spec and tell me at the highest echelon of that spec tell me the tier list of them. just bc a warrior out dps’s your hunter in your personal experience/raid doesn’t mean warrior is performing better than hunter.
Why are WCL important? bc its essentially data of the best of the best performing on that class/spec<— this matters more than your average player playing a class and getting out dps’d by a better player on a worse class. do you understand?
on the flip side, at the highest lvl and equal skill, the BEST hunter is doing more than 30% raw patchwerk dps than the BEST warrior in the … WORLD. NA+EU. Like i don’t understand how you dont get this
I will gladly help you understand whatever youre having trouble with and explain in detail and give source and evidence just tell me
Ive already looked through the logs and posted the top melee dps for every fight into another thread.
They were all warrior apart from mek. This isnt hard to understand. Hunters had a high average, but their top end was still relatively low compared to other classes. Now theyre just bad.
I just did the math on the #1 melee hunt and the #1 dps warrior. The mean of the warrior was 664. The hunter, 705. So the hunter is doing 6% higher dps. Therefore a 30% hunter nerf sounds bad but its not bc even after this 30% nerf hunter will still be 5% stronger than everyone besides mage lock (and now war). Warriors are drastically gear reliant so once the average war is in bis, we will see them at #1 and they will also prolly get a nerf
I did the math on a few other hunts vs. wars and you can see the huge gap that hunter has above war, up until the war is in bis
the mean
Irrelevent. Look at max damage on boss.
Buddy, this is the max damage on the boss for EACH boss.
What Blizz needs to do is bring everyone down to the 350-380max range. bc 340-440+ is what is warranting all these nerfs.
Mind you, instead of you taking accountability of your class being broken, you side jab and say “oh but oh well warrior is uh… doing more too” what one class being overtuned doesn’t make it ok for your class to be overtuned as well. I mean if you really wanna talk about it, people in general are doing near BWL dps at level 40. Everyone needs a 100% dmg nerf and some need a 150% dmg nerf lets be real
as of right now, hunters Fire mage and Destro lock all need a 30% dmg nerf. And when the average warrior is smoking the meters in full bis they will get one as well. This is just called balancing man
get that logic out of here. Zug only
Raptor strike nerf when combined with the normalization changes are a ~25% nerf to survival. Meanwhile shaman melee auto attacks hit harder than raptor strike lol.
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Long awaited you say… Have you not played retail within the past 2 years? You say you’ve played for 20 years… Have you already forgotten how good it was within the past 2 years?? You do realize melee hunter will still be top 3 DPS on alliance and maybe dip to #4 on horde.
Not viable you say… you’ve played hunter in worse conditions than this if you’ve played the game as long as you say you have
That depends. In PvE, OP is always wanted and desired. That does lead to other problems: such as certain classes (lower performing) not being invited in favor. In PvP, ALWAYS desire but groups have been separated. Bringing other specs up a bit and slightly nerfing “op” is vastly better.
Buddy, you’re wrong and cannot read logs.
Grubbis - Warrior is #1 melee
Viscous - Warrior is #1 melee
Elect - Warrior is #1 melee
Crowd - Warrior is #1 melee
Mech - Warrior is #1 melee
Mek - Hunter is #1 melee
No one really cares what the median output for a one button class is. It’s expected to be high.
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Boo-hoo, your egregiously broken melee build was nerfed to where you might be a middle-tier raid DPS, instead of #1 by a mile. Sorry if I have no sympathy for you whatsoever.
instead of #1 by a mile
They weren’t #1 though lol.
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Thats not true. Mage, Lock and warrior my WCL are ahead of hunter. Enhance and ele were right below them. So now with the nerf you are not droping 60 dps you are dropping over 100 dps. Then forced to play a single cookie cutter spec where as before you could pick between BM and survival and it was close enough where both were viable. Now its you play BM melee, survival is dead and ranged hunter is laughable.
Gear must not matter to you, cheesing mechanics and kill time must not metter to you, the list goes on.
Btw you’re only right about the first 2 bosses lol. Have you ran Gnomer? Did you not know that warriors can pre 100 rage on the first boss? I could keep naming stuff but you don’t understand logic or raw data lol you clearly zug and are mad you cant after tomorrow like comeon bruh
NOT TO MENTION warriors have to press more than 1 button. Your mele hunt is legit spamming a single button the entire fight doing over 1k dps. Medians matter as well like how do you not understand this. It’s also why casters typically do the worst dps but are #1 on some fights (in general WoW bosses)