Mutilate needs a Nerf, it is beyond broken in PVP

It 100% wason Phase 2.

Literally last phase. This not getting through to people? Do you all actually play rogues in SoD?

Cata is the expansion where they blow up everyone’s HP to millions and billions and you need an entire raid team to kill a Resto Druid. I still have bad memories of Tol Barad, that garbo is 50% of the reason I quit PVP in Cata.

A lot of people either didn’t play Cata at launch or don’t remember it, but yeah, it guts PVP kill times. Pretty sure this is when dampening becomes a thing, around this time anyway. People just turtle you in arena, they don’t even try to burst.

Also tanks in PVP. The Vengeance mechanic is broken in early Cata and gets nerfed 15 zillion times going forward until deleted.

Your idea is absolute trash. Mutilate is the ONLY thing letting us do any damage. If you’re dying to go play a sword spec, go play something else.

You didn’t have 10 xtra talents in phase 2

Mutilate has been broke since the change but phase 3 really opened things up

Yea bro because killing literally anyone I open on from stealth 100000% of the time should be a thing. Like zero chance you can do anything If i open from stealth right now.

So what you’re saying is that somehow 10 talent points has accounted for the massive PVE dps increase? It’s a combination of all their runes right now.

Because rogues got a ton of good runes in Phase 3. it’s not JUST mutilate.

ya sure when priests and every other class doesnt kill us 2 secs after we stop stunning them LOL
at least as a rogue main have some tact in that if we lose that power we need others to be brought down or give us some leeway to live

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the worse expac, you definitely didnt play WoD or Shadowlands LOL

Yes

No, rogues still go down like a ugly potato the second they show face in a bg. World pvp and 1v1s they destroy every class. I don’t think the runes are being thought out at all.

“A ton of good runes”… Subjective but okay.

Priests might turn into a free kill after I get trinket, not sure yet. Without the fear they are basically scrambling to not die.

Then I disagree with you.

I’m not talking about PVP, and sounds like bad rogues not properly supporting the rest of the team. I’ve played with and against some incredibly hard to kill rogues.

The title of the GD THREAD LITERALLY SAYS

P V P

Guess what, game isn’t only a PVP game. Congratulations. In classic PVP and PVE and linked and you cannot discuss one without the other. Hence why there are two different versions of skills in retail.

This thread was specifically made to talk about pvp

What kinda drugs do you take on the daily???

I’m sorry that you are so unhappy that you have to act this way in a civil discussion. Get some help.

I almost wanna add Amideus to my ignore even though he isn’t responding to me, that’s how obnoxious this person is.

IF you open from stealth. With how many things can kick us out of stealth nowadays, along with the Spy addon, that becomes a VERY big if. We wouldn’t stand a chance in hell if we couldn’t do the damage we’re doing now if we get kicked out of stealth. Being able to do this much damage has saved me so many times when the spy addon has clearly warned someone I’m in the area (when I roll with the +3 cloak, +1 boots, and 5 points in sub stealth) and they AOE me out of stealth and insta dot me. Do I die anyway sometimes? Yes, but at least I take them down with me half the time.

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