Multiboxing positivity

Yes but if you create a environment where everyone is forced to be like that in order to survive here is what happens.
A) It’s no longer fun for most.
B) Everyone becomes a jerk because they have to to survive.
C) I have to listen to the very same people who do this behavior complain about how WoW has gotten so toxic and everyone is a jerk. Then the vein in my forehead throbs because it’s really hard to explain to them that they are the root of their own problems.

So sure, farm all the herbs you can but try and draw the line at kicking others out of the farm totally.

annnnnnd there ya go.
My mind goes straight to motivations every time.
Why is he here if hes ok with boxing…and while telling someone to unsub to force blizzard to act?
odd…

But all you’re doing is antagonizing people who are pro-multiboxing. That pretty clearly shows your true agenda no matter how much you claim to not care about multiboxing.

If there was a thread about a topic that I didn’t care about, I most likely wouldn’t even open it up, and I certainly wouldn’t reply to it multiple times over.

It wont end cause there is a tug of war. Only mod closing it will stop it.

Multiboxing is fine

vs

Multiboxing is cheating

If you read my responses to Yesuna, the OP, I made it clear that while I don’t mind multiboxing, I do not agree with his/her conclusion that this proves Blizzard is right in everything and people should instead stop complaining.

EDIT: And I didn’t antagonize even the person replying to me. Apparently, me showing Yesuna proof that Blizzard can change their minds when people unsub in masses is somehow equal to me saying “I don’t like multiboxing. I will unsub” (Something I never said).

My opinion is this:

Stay in your own lane. Report people for economic exploitation and move on. Turn off warmode.

um…its called world of WARcraft. its SUPPOSED to be overly aggressive by nature.

Most? I doubt it.
I deal with farmers picking zones clean for days at a time. I just move on to something else. Theyve not ruined my fun at all.

again…WAR game…gonna be like that by default.
it doesnt matter that its your faction, friend…we’re ALL out for self here.

You played classic yet? its as bad or worse over there because nodes are singles. You dont get a chance to farm them once someone else has. Retail is far better…yet supposedly has more complaints about ‘toxicity’. Im just not buying it.

honestly you might need to play a single player game if this is stressing you out this bad.
I have to take BP meds already so I dont do anything that stresses me. This game doesnt except in cases where Im already doped on caffiene lol.

Seriously…dont play anything thats making you stressed or irritated…it just aint worth it. :slight_smile:

well…thats how i take it. Seems to be personally invested in the topic to me.

annnnnd there ya go…

Why would I be against people using Multiboxing? It begs the question and I haven’t said I’m against it anywhere. O.o

EDIT: To add more context to this, they’re paying more money to Blizzard to play in a way where Blizzard agrees so…more power to them if that’s how they have fun?

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The game doesn’t stress me out most, mostly I un-wind in it. But trying to explain the concept of basic morality to people who self justify is just draining.

Bah I will move forward…and just eat some popcorn in the corner.

You could say the same for the entire discussion here.

Ironically, the title of the thread is “Multiboxing Positivity”

From the posts of the multiboxers, except a few who actually are pretty cool, we only see negative statements and accusations. Almost every multiboxing defense is along the lines of “you guys are ignorant”, and pointless aggressive replies without even reading what others are posting.

Heck, they do not even read what other multiboxers are posting.

Let’s not forget the, “I multibox because I can overpower you” replies.

You guys are doing really well with this positivity thing.
Keep it up.

*edit @Yesuna if you ever wonder again why multiboxers “catch a lot of flak”, just scroll through the replies of yourself and your fellow multiboxers.

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It’s pretty hard to stay positive when you see people retreading the same arguments that you got tired of seeing over a decade ago.

So close, yet so far.

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I am.

Thanks.

If you like multiboxing, you should go ahead with it regardless of what other people think simply because Blizzard chooses to allow it.

That alone should be positive because, if you are having fun doing it…then why not?

It’s legal and you like it.

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and ive only been here three years and Im tired of the lame garbage arguments, lol

Im sorry…where were those again? Quotes please?

Here is a post from 12 years ago. See how many arguments you recognize:

Semantics issue #1:
Is using one keyboard to send signals to multiple instances of WoW automation? In other words, what is the definition of automation as it applies to WoW?

Using a keyboard setup like what you’re describing? Not automation.
Setting up a macro with said keyboard that would, for example, automatically press Fireball each time it was available? Automation.

Semantics issue #2:
Software (such as Keyclone, Octopus, etc) to emulate a keyboard multiboxing solution is, by nature, “3rd party”. Is “3rd party software” synonymous with “bot” or “automation”? Are all types of “3rd party software” bannable?
Likewise, hardware, by nature, is “3rd party”. What kinds (or uses) of 3rd party hardware are bannable?

Is it sending an identical signal to all client windows or switching between them to send commands? Not automation.
Is it playing the game for you, or rather, for one of your client windows? Automation.
All hardware is considered neutral as long as its commands and features are not being used to automate gameplay.

Semantics issue #3:
Does multiboxing give a player an in-game advantage?

Yes --and so does grouping.

Therefore, can multiboxing be considered an exploit?

No. We consider it be an alternative playstyle; not everyone can do it, but if a person is willing to devote the concentration and capital to such a venture–legitimately–we’re perfectly fine with it. Five multiboxed accounts can be feared and CCed just like five solo accounts.

Semantics issue #4:
Multiboxing can be considered by some as “against the spirit of the game” or, at least, "against the spirit of the game the way I want to play it ". Is multiboxing against the “spirit of the game”?

See above.

Semantics issue #5:
Multiboxers provide Blizzard with a significant amount of extra income, and that, and only that, is the reason why is it currently allowed. True/false?

Patently false. All accounts should be allowed to be played as they see fit provided that they’re playing within our policies. In cases of mulitboxing, all accounts involved are playing the same as any other account, only simultaneously.

Semantics issue #6:
Multiboxing is only allowed because there is no reliable way for Blizzard to find, identify, and catch them. True/false?

Almostly hilariously false

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Looks like responses from the blues I posted in one of these threads.
Guess the guys who know the facts telling it like it is just aint enough for some in here.
the entitlement of these threads is nauseating.

Someone has been typing for quite some time.

:man_facepalming:

that isn’t how it works. no one is price gouging at that level. since it’s the most accessible profession, the largest amount of players use it to make gold. price gouging happens in monopolies, price fixing in a cartel situation, or inelastic products.

this goes only to hurt the lowest earning players who are just starting out. for players who already have an established cashflow, this is a non-issue. in the end, this means people on the top end spend less buying buying mats and it only further consolidates golds to a few players rather then the majority.

the economy right now is in a terrible spot.

it’s not about being fair bud… everyone is trying to game the system for their benefit… everyone. that’s why we have regulatory bodies to insure some level of fairness happens. that’s why we have a minimum wage. that’s why we have laws that prevent price fixing. that’s why we break up companies that are monopolies.

let me give you an example. for a long time, China tried to flood the American markets with cheap garlic that was being product by prison labor. this is modern day slavery. these prisoners make NO money and these goods are then shipped to the US. Well, this was destroying the garlic producers in the US who couldn’t compete with the absurdly low prices. Is that fair in your mind? Do you think we should reward companies and countries who take part in slavery?

You see, how we define fair is relative. For the MAJORITY of players, a single player controlling multiple accounts to exploit how herbs and ore functions in this game isn’t fair. We would like to see better regulation. That’s why we have regulations in the real economy. That’s why we need more regulation in wow’s economy. how you want to define fair is on you. there is obviously something wrong with a player controlling 20 toons to farm a single node…

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There is so much wrong with the above post I’m not going to bother.

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