Okay, I’ll bite. How is it not botting when you have 5 accounts run by the same player in a PvP match or even two?
You say “programs you use to box” which okay, you won’t tell us which ones, but WHY NOT? Blizzard allows multiboxing, so why wouldn’t they allow you to tell us what programs you use if they allow us to mention and link addons? If they are legal to use, they are legal to use, are they not?
Okay, now see THIS I have no problem with. I think it’s GREAT that Blizzard allows this. It’s not something I will ever do myself, but it’s cool to know they allow it if I ever did.
But those who actually do use programs that essentially click buttons for you, that’s botting. Years ago there was this really cool addon I had that would automatically feed your pet when necessary whatever was in your bags that was appropriate, however Blizzard made the creator change it so that it would pop up a warning on the screen with a custom button you had to click to feed the pet, as his mod was too much automation. So, one button click, one action.
Because every action that all the characters perform happens as a result of a player pressing a button.
I use ISBoxer, you can see guides on the setup and how everything works here https://www.youtube.com/user/Multiboxology
I press “2”, 2 is sent to 400 clients, one button one action per client
Myself, I don’t box in PvP. I did it a couple times years ago when levelling some druids and didn’t care for it, but that was back before they disabled follow from bgs.
But ultimately the argument is that it’s no different than going up against a premade or trying to Rambo people 5v1. A coordinated group of 10 is going to own a multiboxer every time. A single person going up any group of 3+ players in this game is going to get wrecked.
For programs, I use Hotkeynet for my key cloning program which I’ve used since Vanilla. I think the program is literally the same with no updates since Vanilla. And I use EMA which helps with group management and quest turn ins. You can also set it to do things like automatically sell grey items when you open a vendor tab and to have slaves auto follow the master after combat ends. I feel the last is a bit too close to automation so I don’t have that turned on and instead have follow keybound and spam it after combat or the slaves get stuck.
So Hotkeynet and other keycloning programs don’t do that and I believe that’s where the biggest misconception about botting comes from.
When you set up the program you have to specify a hotkey to turn on and windows the hotkey sends the key inputs to. When the hotkey is turned on it will send your keystrokes to those windows and ONLY those windows. So you’ll have windows named WoW1-WoW5 or so and when you type 1 it triggers the 1 action in WoW1-WoW5. Everything is being done manually.
If it helps, think of it less as controlling 5 characters all at once and more trying to play 5 characters all at the same time but only with 1 input available instead of 5.
I remember that mod. It was crucial for hunters. But it was definitely automation. It simplified the act of “Open bags, find appropriate food, click on feed pet, click on food” to a simple button press, completely automating the entire process of caring for a hunter pet.
Multiboxing is the opposite of the mod. Instead of 1 button press doing a bunch of different chains or actions, it only does one things. The trick comes from setting up your character in advance so that when you press that 1 button, the 3-40 other characters are all launching a symbiotic ability at the appropriate time.
If you multi-box in PVP you’re a human skidmark and no excuses will change that.
i thought blizzard didn’t want multiboxers in battlegrounds because they break the game though
I’m glad you clarified that because it SURE does seem like you’re baiting me.
No I detest pay to win. I don’t play pay to win games. I refuse to.
Now exactly how is using add-ons pay to win? Do people have to buy these multiboxing add-ons? Because I haven’t seen where people said they bought them and that would be some relevant info
*edit to fix the phone typo multiplying to multiboxing, because phone
The main point, if there is any, is that the OP is trying to garner sympathy from the community, yet do not see how his/her action affects everyone else, and tries to misconstrue the definition of “botting”.
If you are running scripts to make your clients perform actions on their own, it is botting. Unless you play in multi windows and control them individually, it is botting.
Is it a bannable offense? No, Blizzard has explicitly stated that they do not condone using said scripts, but neither will they take any action against these script runners.
I believe most of the community are already leaving multiboxers alone, so if you wish for less hate, cut the lies and hypocritical nonsense.
Personally, I really enjoy multiboxers. Especially ones that are passionate such as prepared. It adds fun to wpvp. I remember some absolutely epic 1fps battles sing side prepared and Mal.
no, don’t l like multboxers
they may technically not be illegal but they are not supported/endorsed by blizzard either
they are a bane of existence for places like Nazjatar and of herbing in general
no love here
I am not sure if you have to purchase the multibox software, but you do have to purchase multiple subscriptions. Does that change your stance or does it remain the same knowing this?
I asked you specifically because you seemed like a neutral party and someone who would not give a certain answer because you had any agenda. No bait! 
Nothing will sway me. Multiboxing is a literal pay-2-win situation and blizzard values you more then a normal player as a result
The funny thing about this discussion is that both sides are arguing on the same point:
As Hecatomb have pointed out, one button five actions.
Multiboxing is half-automation. To the multiboxers, that is only half botting so it does not count. To others, botting is botting.
I believe that the freedom to each individual’s point of view run on both sides.
And as I said in the other thread, if you call multiboxing automation then literally every single action taken on a computer is automation especially if you use a wireless keyboard or mouse.
The only way that “the other side’s” argument makes any sense is if you both ignore Blizzard’s very specific and clear stance on what constitutes botting and automation and how multiboxing and keyclone ACTUALLY works.
Half of the people who pop up in these threads calling mbers scum and other things don’t even seem to understand HOW multiboxing works. They act like it’s witchcraft or something. They don’t know how it works, they just know that it’s wrong because it’s someone else doing a thing they aren’t doing and getting things they don’t have. So it’s cheating. Because they say so.
Reality doesn’t work that way.
As pointed out earlier, one button five actions.
Your analogy of wireless products fail, as it is one button - one action.
Blizzard has been very specific : they do not condone multi-boxers, nor will they take actions. Blizzard’s stance have also been very inconsistent with “clever use of mechanics”, and their ban hammer. Hence, most of us are not too impressed with their “current stance”.
We actually know how multi-boxing works, we just do NOT agree with your definition of one button-five action.
Your accusation of people calling out multi-boxers just because they are ignorant do not stand. It is not because we say so. It is a fact that one button five action is automation that is the same principle as botting. Where do you draw the line? One button fifteen actions? One button fifty actions?
A botter can easily use the same defense, saying that he did press a button to start the bots anyway. It is just one button three hundred actions.
Maybe YOUR reality does not work that way. Not so for the majority.
*edit: Personally, I do not really care about Multi-boxers. The only scummy thing about this, is how the OP is trying to take the moral high ground by arguing how his selfish actions are actually beneficial to the community. It is akin to giving someone the third finger, and then pretending that was done with good intentions.
I am inclined to agree but the problem is there are other multi boxers that sit for hours at the same spot because they are exploiting blizzard’s grey areas regarding the issue. 
No it doesn’t. It’s literally what is happening when people use keyclones OR when they have wireless peripherals. Some additional software tells the computer where the 1 clicks go and then it sends it there where it does one action.
And yet you keep leaving out the “per 1 client window” part of the rules which shows you’re either willfully being ignorant or you do not in fact understand how it works.
Please read the exchanges above by Hecatomb first, before typing out your replies.
Thank you.
I understand how that can be upsetting. I mean personally when it comes to wpvp I won’t even attack the same person twice unless provoked.
But if there is someone be it a single character or a 40 man raid. I do believe today’s adventurer has more tools than ever to counter it.
They can join a variety of communities that specializes in wpvp. Shadow of death has over 5 full communities of players that will jump at the chance to be a part of dismembering an alliance raid.
If they don’t want to do that they could take the other way out, Rez at gy, go to main city to turn off warmode.
That being said we should play accordingly. I can promise you there’s been times even with how much I love wpvp. I tend to be solo, so if I encounter just a tag team I will have to admit defeat and turn off warmode. It’s just how it is at times.
and its a stupid argument anyway.
So bliz wants more money…CLEARLY if that is the case its players who WANT to pay more money who are handing it over.
Good lord…these people cant even make sense of their own joke arguments.