Multi boxers create a negative rmt feedback loop

If it was iterating in some way, then maybe, because that input would be subject to additional logic handling, but with the way its currently being done, I don’t see it as automation. I see it more akin to a radio station that is putting out a signal for whatever is set to receive it. The radio station doesn’t care if you are listening, and isn’t going to change its content because you specifically are tuning in. Wow accounts are just wow.exe processess, so if one keystroke gets sent to the process from the Input buffer without being manipulated, that seems like the definition of one click-one action to me.

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This isn’t quite the argument you were hoping to make, because a different set of rules govern macro controls, and that has more to do with what is on GCD versus off GCD. Anything off GCD can be part of the same macro, but you can only use one “on-GCD” action per keystroke, and breaking that functionality is considered an exploit.

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The radio station broadcasting also doesn’t directly cause an effect at the other end of it’s broadcast.

Wow inputs do. Break it down however you like, it’s still replicating an action.

I know its not the same…but HIS argument was about reducing human input. Macros do exactly that. Cant whine about one form of doing it thats not a violation while not railing about another method of doing it.

Actually you put the crap that has no CD in the macro first…and just enough of them to cover the CD of the last item in the macro that does have a CD…works perfect in game for me.
one key press, one action performed.
Toss in a reset of a couple seconds which makes it function even better.

Dude, they broke macros hard.

You could have the whole TBC hunter rotation on mousewheel. It was nerfed in WoTLK

Macros aren’t nearly as “automatic” as they used to be.

And you know why it was nerfed? Because a chunk of the playerbase was getting the hang of it.

I’m not even sure why I even came back to this thread, I guess I left my heroes’ medal. :medal_sports:

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Oh dear, it’s been several hundred posts since I was last here and it’s still completely circular.

(secretly wonders if Blizzard actually sets up these things as part of a social experiment)

:cookie:

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I don’t know what radio stations you listen to, but my radio stations definitely cause an effect on my end. I just cant tell them to stop playing something and have them listen.

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Your thoughts are not a direct action effect from the radio you’re hearing. Now if they had some form of mind control and they could tell you to raise your left arm, maybe we’d have some real subject matter.

Lol you’re the one who truly believes more than 50% even bother going to these forums.

I think the radio analogy doesn’t really fit here because it is a one to many communication. So its outputting on one frequency, people pick it up. While there may be no additional logic that you see in the code, under the hood, it is probably processing this in a loop on machine/assembly. It would have to send to each one in some fashion, i would imagine it would create a loop and send to each exe.

God these comments crack me up…

“hey blizzard…let me explain how boxing works so you’ll know why it should be banned” :laughing:

Somehow i think blizzard knows exactly how boxing…and botting…work…and dont need our help beyond just tossing out a report when we see something strange in game :wink:

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We actually do it in parallel, bursting to all client processes at one time. This reduces input latency and minimizes traffic overall across the environment, because while some clients are on the local host, others will be remote, including hosts connected via a satellite link, or microwave radio.

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It has been fun y’all but I have to go feed my wife and kid, so they don’t strangle me in my sleep. Try to keep things civil.

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Have a good one!

Blizzard trolling their own forum.
That actually sounds like a thing LOL

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Common sense says the Earth is flat. Your observations are not evidence.

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Botters by and large use hacked and stolen accounts. They aren’t paying for the boxes.

Software they’ve explicitly said doesn’t violate their policies.

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I’d like to see your evidence that most or all of the bots that were banned in the latest ban wave were stolen or hacked accounts. Then I’d like to see where on the spreadsheet that has any bearing on how much cash blizzard made.

Software they’ve explicitly declined to comment on or support and I can look it up for you if you like.

Well, I assume if all of us ‘pro-boxers’ are all alts of one person, then the same must be true of you anti-boxer.

15 years of hanging out in the CS forum helping players and talking with the blues.

You can’t possibly be this dense IRL. If you steal an account, by definition you aren’t paying for it. If you aren’t paying for a thing, the seller doesn’t make any money. So logically (not your strong suit, I know), Blizzard doesn’t make any money when the bot farm steals a bunch of accounts.

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I never said that.

I don’t believe you.

The accounts were active and the money was spent. This is assuming that 100% of the accounts were stolen, and when you’re rolling in as much gold as the bots do I highly doubt it.