Mount equipment and Druids

Travel form is not considered mount. You can still mount up at any time. I use my water strider when on my druid as it’s faster on water than the water travel form.

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This will probably go the way of the druid class mount, which was actually just a reskinned travel form. While they were pretty, they were unusable inside an instance so it was worthless to even spend the time to obtain it.

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You need to make sure that there’s two returns after the /quote before you start typing. And the /quote needs to go on its own line, as well.

So it’ll be:

quote=“what they said”
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Your repsonse

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I use my travel form in conjunction with the raft toy from mop. The toy has a 1.5 second cast time, can be used while moving, and has the same limitation as water walking mount, only I can use my movement talent to leap forward every 15 seconds and go faster than the strider. Doing this in guardian is anti daze. Doing this with moonkin affinity, which I use for world stuff, gives me the ability to flap for long falls. So in a sense, druid can already do all of the things that the equipment allows, arguably better.

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I know it’s not considered a mount. It’s technically a stance. BUT it still obeys a lot of mount specific rules. It gets buffed by the guild perk that increases mount speed for instance. It shifts you out of form when you enter a no-mount zone. And of course, it’s the only way to gain permanent mount speed without actually being on a mount. So even though it’s not a mount, it behaves like one. And it’s subject to a lot of restrictions that normal transformation spells aren’t. So I don’t think it’s so clear cut that travel form shouldn’t get the same benefits as a mount.

When they gave us a new travel form as our “class mount” to me that was a very clear statement that Blizzard recognizes that a lot of Druids see Travel form as their default “mount.” It would feel arbitrary then if they did not show the same consideration when handing out mount gear.

Given that the whole point of this change was to allow players to use whatever mount they wish while still utilizing the mechanical bonuses granted by specific mounts… I remain unconvinced that travel form should be left out.

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Great points, druid alt so not as invested as a main toon. Seems like a byproduct tradeoff in that travel form is instant. Interested to see how it turns out.

Pretty sure the changes will not affect Druid travel forms. If they did, people will complain about it until it is nerfed and removed.

I wouldn’t think they would complain anymore than they do currently. If travel form were allowed to use mount gear then the relationship between travel form and normal ground mounts would be exactly the same as it is now: identical save for the instant cast. Travel form is already objectively superior to normal mounts as it can mimic everything a normal mount can do save for water walking. And that’s not a mount advantage, that’s a strider advantage. So giving gear to travel form would be maintaining the status quo while not doing so would be a travel form nerf, as now mounts can do things that travel form cant replicate.

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If Druids pull ahead in anything the community complains.

DEATH TO HYBRIDS!

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How many perks should one class have though? Cause tallied it up back in legion and druids had the most perks for their class followed by mages if I remember correctly, which is why I didn’t feel any sympathy for the class mount thing and getting a free 2 seat flying mount.

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What’s to complain about? We can still use water walking potions with stag form. We can still get water walking cast on us by Shamans, as well.

People don’t get dazed as tanks and we rarely get dazed as moonkins.

Why should mount equipment be any different?

I have a macro that switches my weapon with my fishing artifact. The water walking from that works with travel form.

Why should it? People are always complaining about travel form. Just wait until flight and druids (especially night elves) fly to get away from from PVP.

This sounds like whataboutism to me. I’m not in the business of deciding how many perks per class is appropriate, I’m just here to say that travel form is already an established Druid perk. If we want to get rid of it or some other Druid perk then that’s a separate conversation that shouldn’t be involved with the mount gear conversation. I won’t weigh in on it here.

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No lol. You guys can swim why do you need to run on water?

If you want to run on water just get a mount for that. Or choose not to like most of you already have.

I love how warlocks complain all the time about how they got screwed, but the minute a thread about druids pops up, someone inevitably has to start the whole “I have no sympathy, druid perks” bs.

Doesn’t even go as fast as a mount.

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Keep in mind that mount gear isn’t just water walking. The system is obviously designed to be expandable so this question will pop up again every time a new mount gear comes up that Travel Form is denied.

For me personally, I would use water walking for things like the first trash skip in Siege of Boralus. If you just use Aquatic form you can’t make the jump back to the pier in time and get munched by sharks.

The OP submits that druids are getting the short end of the stick because their “perk” (as you called it) doesn’t get the same benefits as a mount with equipment.

So I guess we should decide if travel form in all of its forms a “perk” or it’s a mount option. If it’s a perk then no it doesn’t need access to the equipment abilities that mounts get. If it’s a mount option then it needs to be nerfed of its perks because it’s limited to a single class with the instant cast. Others don’t have access to that mount at all and travel form should be held to the exact same standards as any other mount.

So I guess we should decide if it’s a mount or if it’s a class “perk”.

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Hmmm, now that you brought that up it might be a problem…

Druids try and use the water to escape sometimes and that usually works if a DK isn’t around…

Now that everyone will have easier access to water walking… druid survival will be harder.

HM! This is actually a good point.

How will the equipment suddenly be different for water walking than the strider mount exactly?

I use my druid for herbalism and mining, so yeah… mount equipment for them sounds pretty good.