There’s another?!
Oh God I want to vomit.
I hate Blizz.
There’s another?!
Oh God I want to vomit.
I hate Blizz.
Elune already has Death in her portfolio. Part of Cata archaeology lore was the belief she sets fallen Night Warriors to drift across the night sky as stars. Presumably akin to what she did for Ysera.
Heck, at this point, Fel is the only one of the six universal forces she hasn’t been associated with. Unless you really reach for it through Illidan and the Illidari.
Yep. Edgy last name, and all. I had much the same reaction.
I can’t expect night elves to -leave- the Alliance, because WoW is structured with the 2 party system, and Blizzard likely will never deviate from that (Even tho I think they should).
However, I would like to see the Night Elves distance themselves from the rest of the Alliance now. Night Elves moving away from their old school, isolationist, xenophobic ways has really only resulted in Kaldorei deaths. And after Anduin sought to retake long-dead human Kingdoms before retaking Kalimdor, I want to see Kaldorei faith in the Alliance plummet, and Tyrande take a more Long Vigil approach to her foreign policy.
Don’t worry, this one you get to kill after she roundhouse kicks Jaina a few times.
Back to kaldorei basics, normies get out we might give you wood sometime.
Yeah, her name is Lyana Shadestalker and I’ve never heard of her. I don’t remember her being a part of that group of Wardens who were present when Tyrande became the Night Warrior.
So, they just made her up for this. As to where she came from besides the writer’s behind, she might have joined the warfront at some point and died, only to have Nathanos raise her. She then immediately joins the Horde so she can start slaughtering night elves, all because Maiev ordered her to collect iron from the Lornesta mine, but that is work for grunts how dare she!
The utter demolition of their entire civilization and subsequent repeated apocalypses at the hands of an immortal demonic army senselessly killing millions of night elves across tens of thousands of years couldn’t shake their resolve and faith in resolve.
But a paltry, worthless faction that’s less than three decades old marching through a few zones and wrecking one city to maintain the e-sport status quo of the franchise has their most devout militants abandoning millennia of unswerving faith in droves. Right.
It’s a good thing the Horde didn’t just stand back and call them nasty names or something; presumably something like that would’ve driven the kaldorei burn their own forests in effigy and start worshiping Sargeras.
Why the Alliance as a whole?
Why not andiun himself? I would love for his character to grow past the peace loving ways and finally be realistic with the situation.
He is the only one that is giving the narrative the one dimentional good guy problem.
Very well said.
It feels too forced.
Where else you gonna go, bromigo?
If you haven’t noticed, the remainder of the surviving night elves are now shacking up in Stormwind. So helping the alliance not lose their homes is also preventing you from losing your fall back home.
For that matter, you shouldn’t even be angry at the Alliance, you should be angry at these story devs. These are the guys that have seen fit to stomp the face of the night elves into the dirt every chance they have gotten.
The Night elves went from immortal demigods to a bunch of purple plebs with a less than useless goddess watching their backs. The Alliance didn’t do that to them, buddy. That’s all Blizzard.
Now granted, I’m pretty bent out of shape at Anduin myself for not even sending a paltry force of 7th legion to aid in the recapture of darkshore considering all the Nelves have done for the Alliance and I know discount James Bond (Shaw) has a few SI:7 agents he could spare as well, but then again that too is because of Blizzard and their absurd narrative this expac.
At least Graymane was loyal enough to back them up.
To be fair, Night Elves are taking back all of their land with no help from the Alliance, aside from the Gilneans… who have been living in Teldrassil for many years anyway.
Inner conflict, in MY Alliance?!
Its less likely than you think. Im sure Jaina cinematic number 2421 or Anduin feeling sad in Stormwind will suffice for whatever the refugee races feel upset over in Blizzard’s eyes.
The night elves are basically the most loyal to the Alliance, considering everything they’ve gone through and still stayed members. They’ve given up the most to try and forge peace with the modern Horde, at the behest of other Alliance member races that literally have never had their lands attacked by said modern Horde in the history of WoW.
Even now the night elves haven’t abandoned the Alliance, the only ones who have are those who were killed, raised, and then afflicted by ‘lol not mind control guys’. Even when the Alliance chose attacking Zandalar over saving Darkshore, Tyrande left a large chunk of her forces to help.
The night elves have never abandoned the Alliance.
False! The reason Anduin attacked the Undercity is because it is SYLVANAS city. Meaning she would have to defend it. Considering it was her center of power. You know, the person who ordered the destruction of Tedrassil.
Aside from The sundering and the Satyr War the Legion NEVER returned in full force, until Warcraft 3.
Elune has never been an activd goddess. More importantly, EVERYONE in WoW gets kick to the curb sooner or later.
Sure, and Stromggarde too? No… So, not as false as you claim.
I’ve said it before and I’ll probably say it again, but this whole BFA thing is a long way from the most traumatic the kaldorei have ever come through.
Sundering, destruction of Ashenvale – and the subsequent social schism, war of the satyr, assorted Legion invasionettes, war of the Shifting Sands, whatever the heck Maiev was talking about implying that the kaldorei maybe had an extinction level war with some race we don’t see because they’re all dead now…
Like, I can see the destruction of a less-than-two-decades-old-tree after the Horde carved through the civilians of Ashenvale and Darkshore (because, again, the might of the kaldorei was out at the time) being a breaking point for some.
But there’s still a LOT of night elf turf left.
And the Alliance is stated to be winning on all fronts. All fronts include Ashenvale and Darkshore.
And there’s been some very visible signs of Elune’s favor. Like that constant nightfall over Darkshore.
It seems unlikely that the majority of night elves are having a meltdown and saying to themselves “You know what? I’m so mad that my people died that I’m going to up and join the thing that’s invested in killing my people.” Be it Old Gods or the Horde.
Night elves have been through worse. It’s just annoying that we had the huge story focus on night elves losing… And then we’re NOT seeing the victory on all fronts, driven by the kaldorei and worgen in northern Kalimdor. Multiweek event and two novellas for a massive loss, two throw away lines for resounding victory. The night elf story.
Nah it’s totally a coincidence that more and more races are getting shovelled into Stormwind, and why 2 human kingdoms were the first focus of the Alliance offensive.
Yeah…that’s my point. Those few times are the defining conflicts of night elf history, and they dwarf this current war in scope and loss. Basically every previous conflict the night elves have been in was a horrifying catastrophe from start to finish, marked by ghastly and staggering losses before they finally won through, and they remained staunch in their resolve.
So after all that, they lose one campaign against the Horde and suddenly they’re supposed to be shedding believers because Elune’s abandoned them? Faction-partisan moaning and moralizing in the forums aside, their faith in Elune saw them through things a billion times worse than this, and it just feels like an artificial and hackneyed attempt at imparting fake gravitas to the faction conflict when getting trounced by the Horde specifically is what triggers a crisis of faith among a bunch of named night elves, while being slaughtered en masse by demons and undead, being cursed and killed into worgen and being eaten alive by swarms of giant bugs was apparently just another day at the office for them.
If it were personalized like Leyara’s betrayal was by the loss of her child, it would at least potentially feel justified on an individual basis, but even that wouldn’t sync with them deciding to outright join their own killers. That would only justify them becoming standard “hates the world and lashes out at everyone” undead, not Horde-aligned partisans fighting to destroy their own people.
There’s still a pretty solid contingent that assembles in Borallus. Shandris Feathermoon is still doing espionage in Zuldazar, and of course the Couple are still doing their thing in Darkshore.
Giving up? Not by longest shot you can imagine.
That is from Wowhead which as I recall was the stated lore reason from Blizzcon. Add to that Stormgarde was ALREADY controlled by the Alliance as of Before the Storm, which means the Alliance was defending what it already had as oppose to launching a military strike for conquest sake!
Maybe because the Alliance would focus on the Eastern Kingdoms considering THAT IS ITS HOMEFRONT. Even back in “Tides of War” it was Sylvanas who correctly pointed out thaf if the Alliance could not immediately attack Kalimdor(which was the very reason the whole attacking Tedrassil suceeded) they would “vent its frustration on the EK Horde”.
Which makes 0 sense since the Kalimdor Horde just finished a 7:1 causality war, leaving Org, a city they know how to siege, primed and ready. And it’s Stormwind / Ironforges Homefront, the alliance isnt just those 2 cities.