Ok? What is that going to accomplish? Obliteration is just a means to get KM procs in PoF windows…
It should passivly make oblit damage table switch from physical to frost
Just cuz stuff is the way it is doesn’t mean it can’t change in the future thats my hopeium/copeium at least
So then you are going to change it from what it is, giving important KM procs, to swapping the damage type from Physical to Frost… why put Inexorable assault in there?
It makes the ability do more damage as frost
Like I’ve said one source for frost damage also it’s all the time not just during km pof km
No it doesnt.
[Inexorable Assault]
Talent
Requires Death Knight
Requires level 15
Gain Inexorable Assault every 8 sec, stacking up to 5 times.
[Frostscythe: Obliterate and Frostscythe consume / Obliterate consumes] a stack to deal an additional (26.322% of Attack power) Frost damage
I know what it does, but it does not increase the damage of Obliterate. It is its own damage source. Yes its within the same GCD, but that doesnt matter at all.
But lets just say it gets just rolled into Obliterate, how much should Obliterate be buffed by?
It goes buffed by mastery and when you go to places like the cold heart and it’s let’s you stack mastery to stupid high levels. Oblit will still be king and keep up it’s damage.
Unlike now when you stack mastery frost strike will pull ahead and deal massive damage
So dont apply it to Obliterate and just remove Inexorable Assault? Im not seeing the point to your suggestion with Inexorable Assault.
Do the entire DK player base a favour, and make your own thread.
All you do is bash everyone’s ideas with faulty logic and absolute ignorance of the game while offering zero solutions to fix a class you don’t even understand because you don’t play it.
You literally do this on EVERY single thread.
Nobody wants you poluting their thread and I definitely don’t want you on mine you know-nothing know-it-all.
Unfortunately the ignore function doesn’t keep trolls from hijacking the conversation.
Do you think I’m on the forums because enjoy your mental illness?
I’m here to submit suggestions, not because I want to argue with the guy who thinks Death Grip is a raid buff and not a utility spell and who insults anyone who tries to improve the class.
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Then get better ideas. And your on a priest, go to the priest forums.
You’re*
And his ideas revolves on DKs not Priest. But, you should take your own advice & go on the Classic Cata-> MoP forums since you don’t play retail
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And your on a paladin, go over there.
If you arent going to address the points being brought up but instead are going to throw garbage then you are the problem.
You’re x2*
Just like you are doing now? Stay coherent to post not ramble on how devs not read this or that, people just speculating their ideas for others to engage to agree and disagree with someone’s idea. If brainstorming ain’t your cup of tea then move on to a different thread and not be an negative nancy for attention
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Im not here to give you my english thesis.
You dont get to start crap and then blame the person for defending themselves against the crap you start.
They dont, if the devs or anyone from Blizzard was reading the DK forums there would be so many people being cleared out. You would be glad they dont read these forums with as many times as I have been gotten called an idiot in the past 2 days.
And I did that, I disagreed and gave the reasonings.
Like what kind of gaslighting crap are you trying to pull?\
What do you think that is? Attacking someone else? Seriously what kind of gaslighting trip are you on?
No increasing Howling Blast damage is not a good idea, and the suggestion coming from someone saying that things that were removed for a reason shouldnt come back is kind of hypocritical dont you think? Howling Blasts damage was taken out of its baseline and put into Rime for a specific reason, to remove Masterfrost and to not remove half off the spec.
So no, its not being a
as said by someone that is part of the most toxic group on these forums.
Its giving feedback of peoples suggestion showing the issues with it, just because you cant handle some constructive feedback doesnt mean you have the right to do all this toxic crap you are known for. Move on if you cant be an adult.
But you aren’t being constructive either. So you’re being entirely hypocritical there.
All you say is “No that won’t work” you don’t add anything in return. That is only Destructive.
You wanna be constructive? You gotta add back to the conversation so like “No that idea won’t work, but this might: …”
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WOW…
… I’ve heard this somewhere before.
No wait… it’s from somebody who knows really well about Dks.
Was it Chillpills? Nahh. Can’t be him. He wouldn’t possibly say something 5t00p1d like that.
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It really wouldn’t make any appreciable difference. Thats a QoL change more than anything. With 30% baseline crit and running Obliteration, Obliterate ends up critting well over 80% of the time, the vast majority of which are from KM procs. Honestly changing Oblit to full Frost damage would be like a 2% overall buff at best and it wouldnt change our stat weights at all.
The major things they should do
- Lower the GCD, change Runes to start regenerating as soon as theyre on CD and remove Runic Empowerment while increasing the rune regen speed. We shouldn’t have RNG in our basic resource generation. Full stop. Not one single other class has this. Its complete nonsense thats sucked since day 1 if its inception and literally nobody likes it.
- Increase the base damage of our spells and melee attacks while slightly nerfing CD power. We’ll do the same damage overall under optimal conditions, but this will make it less punishing when you have to stop and do mechanics. Our power is entirely focused on CD windows and it sucks. We lose a ton of dps if we can’t glue ourselves to boss every 30 seconds. If you get tagged for a mechanic right after popping a CD, kiss your parse goodbye. At least it wouldn’t be so punishing if our basic rotation with procs did respectable damage.
- Increase the amount of ways we have to enter a burst phase. Look at Ret Pally. They have multiple ways to pop Wings for a few seconds.
- Change all of our auto attack based procs to PPM, but update them so that they get increased by one of the secondary stat ratings. As is, they will always favor DW. Changing them to remove number of auto attacks from the equation will help reduce the disparity between DW and 2H. The spec as a whole will be better with free weapon choice.
- Nerf Runeforges when they are applied to 1h weapons. Helps reduce or removes the disparity between DW and 2H.
- Move cleave from DnD to Remorseless Winter. Not only does trying to stay in a specific spot suck when every other add has some area denial ability or moves around constantly, but DnD just doesn’t fit the theme of Frost at all.
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This is a change I think everybody wants. If they could even out procs between 2h and DW, then it would be much better than just giving 2h a stronger Oblit.
As for the global cooldownbof Oblit, I don’t think it’s something that they can do without lowering it for every ability of every other class.
I assumed they did it to help players with latency, but I’m not sure.
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The change to the rune system was for 2 major reasons.
- Players with high latency were suffering on DKs more than other classes thanks to being GCD locked 100% of the time.
- DKs didn’t scale with Haste whatsoever. Literally all it did was make us auto attack a little faster so it was a totally dead stat for us.
So they changed the rune regen at first to what it is now where Runes only regen in pairs. Then later they changed the GCD.
We really just need a shorter one than what we have now. Taking off .25 sec would be huge in itself. That way we still scale with Haste, but the class plays more similar to how it used to with higher APM.