MM Hunter damage

[Oozo-archimonde]

@Icculus-norgannon

Good ones are too, they just know how to get out of a jam

So, you want MM hunters to be good at getting out of a jam and also be able to face tank damage?

MM hunter should easily be having one of the if not the best kill to death ratio whenever they step into a BG.

[Thaedreu-area-52]

@Icculus-norgannon

Still the squishiest class in the game. Minimal presence in Arenas. in 2v2 there are 5 in the top 100…first one to show is 33rd. 3v3 there are 3 in the top 100…first to show is in 65th place. The one place we do shine is in BGs and its all hate all day. Let people have their fun while it lasts.

“bUt tHeY cAn SnIpEr FrOm StEaLtH!”

If you would focus them down, they wouldn’t be as much of a problem. DoT classes eat them up. A decent warrior who knows how to close gaps would eat them up, DK grips into melee pack, ect., etc.

But, nah. Complaining on the forums will fix it.

If you think hunter is squishiest class in the game, you haven’t been playing any other class lol and nobody is talking about arena… they don’t “shine” in bg’s they overperform and are over tuned

[Icculus-norgannon]

@Oozo-archimonde

So, you want MM hunters to be good at getting out of a jam and also be able to face tank damage?

Thats not what I’m saying. Being durable and being slippery are two diffeent things. I wouldn’t exactly call hunters durable. I think you know what I’m trying to say.

@Oozo-archimonde

MM hunter should easily be having one of the if not the best kill to death ratio whenever they step into a BG.

Yeah, they should.

[Icculus-norgannon]

@Thaedreu-area-52

…they don’t “shine” in bg’s

How many threads we got complaining about MM?

I kinda think they stand out.

[Thaedreu-area-52]

Yes, because they are over tuned…

[Deckarcain-whisperwind]

Several specs stand out as useful for different reasons, clone spam and damage, fear spam and damage, massive AoE and poly spam, strong MS effects and damage, ECT. MM Hunters damage isnt unique, it’s range is the second thing is has going for it and people with less range (everyone else) don’t like it.

[Oozo-archimonde]

@Icculus-norgannon

I wouldn’t exactly call hunters durable. I think you know what I’m trying to say.

But, they shouldn’t be. If they get pinned in and cornered they should be punished.

That is the main problem for MM in arena, it’s far easier to corner them in arena than open field BGs. This is basically the main issue that Blizzard keeps trying to fix by buffing their damage (???), which doesn’t help them in arena beyond gimmicky oneshot goes that good arena players shut down but further degrades the quality of BGs.

[Deckarcain-whisperwind]

If MM damage was as high as the fables suggest, they would always kill someone in the opener and be Glads in record time.

[Oozo-archimonde]

Hunter don’t get to free cast in arena and in BGs their targets often don’t have healers or trustworthy healers.

[Icculus-norgannon]

@Oozo-archimonde

But, they shouldn’t be. If they get pinned in and cornered they should be punished.

Agreed, the point is never to get pinned, but if we do our defensives don’t make us tanky in the least bit, what they do is allow the opportunity to escape. I can turtle and disengage out of trouble, I can throw traps behind me to slow pursuit and so forth. You know, not durable, but slippery.

[Oozo-archimonde]

Turtle and the heal are both pretty strong, they are just on long cooldowns so they can’t sustain in arena very well, but the long cooldowns are fine in BGs. Many BGs I don’t even need to use turtle or my heal or rarely do, so they are often up when I actually do need them.

[Deckarcain-whisperwind]

They’re not free casting much in Blitz either if enemies are smart. I’ll have 3-5 enemies stop whatever they were doing to come kill me once camo is removed in about half the games. It the difference between being near the top or actually top damage and doing almost nothing useful outside of being a distraction.

[Mòist-dethecus]

@Icculus-norgannon

@Mòist-dethecus

its pretty easy to forgo ALL bg objectives and go on safari especially in epic bgs.

Rogues have never done that before. Nope, never ever.

potato tomato

[Damnthing-illidan]

How many buttons is considered low skill?

[Çharming-stormrage]

It’s overtuned guys there is no argueing.

Sniper shot is at least.

It becomes not overtuned once you put it in arena with melee Which is why its become so dumb in bgs is cause their strat for making mm viable is just "oh just make it do more damage in order to force melee in arena to retreat.

Also in arena you have a healer who is there to handle their ridiculously overpowered opener in a bg if you open on a class with no self healing with that sniper chakram opener they are screwed cause they have no self sustain.

Doesn’t translate well into a bg setting where mm hunters are in the back of the pack just tee’ing off on everyone with 0 melee in sight.

[Zanmatø-benediction]

Guys you don’t understand, MM is completely fine in bgs because they are squishy, it is not like they can kill you from 60y+ away, safe behind their team.

There are too many MM hunters in BGs because there are bad.

[Oozo-archimonde]

@Deckarcain-whisperwind

They’re not free casting much in Blitz either if enemies are smart.

As much, since there are less people to hide behind. Agree there with the addition of “as.”

[Soulpriest-gurubashi]

So I floated down from LM to BS in my dragon and a hunter was beaning me in the head and I literally touched down at bs and his arrow hit me. That’s ludicros range. Just fix this nonsense. Come out of stealth into a full series of CDS at 70 yards is garbage. Maybe over the course of a game another class does more damage because they are constantly engaged in combat. But the game play of stealth straight into big CDs is totally garbage. Remove stealth and fix range. They can even keep sniper.

[Deckarcain-whisperwind]

Range is fixed for the week, you just have to go into Arathie blizzard(brawl)

[Soulpriest-gurubashi]

Meh. I’ll believe it when I see it!