MM damage is overtuned, and thats unhealthy for casters

Marksmanship hunters in World of Warcraft currently boast an excessive amount of burst damage, and it’s become a major concern in PvP and PvE scenarios. The combination of Aimed Shot, Rapid Fire, and Trueshot Aura allows them to unleash devastating volleys of high-damage shots in a short window, making it difficult for opponents to react or counter effectively. This not only skews the balance of power in both arenas but also makes it less enjoyable for other players who are on the receiving end of such overwhelming burst. A bit of fine-tuning and balancing would go a long way in ensuring a more enjoyable and equitable gaming experience for all.


Yea nerf MM so my Mage can run around unchecked.


Well OP isn’t wrong. MM has taken the design of glass cannon to unhealthy extremes.

It’s just way too uneven in design. Between the range and physical damage profile, it’s just too busted into cloth/leather.

Blizz should really take an axe to its range, take damage from Rapid/Aimed, put damage into Serpent Sting or other armor-ignoring effects, and then compensate with some small survivability buffs.


This is something that people don’t realize. Nerf hunters now, and we’ll just be right back in a caster meta.

Son, we live in a world that has casters, and those casters have to be guarded by men with bows and guns. Who’s gonna do it? You? You, Zlyrax? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for the deaths, and you curse the Hunters. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know – that those deaths, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives.

You don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about at parties, you want me in that BG-- you need me in that BG.


Hey look, another Survival Hunter asking for nerfs to his own class. Must be a day ending in Y.

You know if they made your spec ranged again i.e. a real Hunter spec maybe it would hold up to MM in BGs better.

Once again this is a bad idea that’s just asking for homogenisation. The range is an important unique strength of MM.

We can talk damage nerfs, though.

MM is OP now because there has to be a burst counter to the melee 100% uptime in BGs.

As long and many melee specs have 100% uptime and OP bust damage there has to be an answer. Thus MM hunters.
Until Blizzard stop using 3s to balance then this stuff will continue.


Class balance is important, not matter what you play

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Whats funny is survival will absolutely destroy a marks hunter. Not sure what hes going on about, I can almost guarantee that a caster (maybe 2) is going to win the next tournament as well, not a marks hunter.

Good, game has been way to “Healthy” for c@sters for a long time

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MM is currently the only thing keeping casters in check.

That being said, remove sniper shot.


I got news homie, MM murders mail/plate too


This is very well done. Bravo. :stuck_out_tongue:

However, there is a real big issue with the current balance between ranged classes in BGs and melee classes in BGs. There was a time when casters used to complain about melee. Does anyone remember that far back?

We don’t need hunters to be caster control, we need better balance between melee and ranged because in the current game if you aren’t queueing in with dedicated healers and support then playing melee can be quite “unfun” shall we say.

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:confused: wut?

mages can be kicked, their iceblock can be broken and doesn’t allow them freedom like turtle does, they don’t have survival tactics, survival of the fittest, exhilaration, etc. Mages are more of a glass cannon than hunters are by a margin.

how do you stop mm damage? kick? outrange? die?

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mm can’t do damage if everyone stops reviving :>


I need to rewatch this, it’s been about 3 weeks since I’ve seen it last.


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Hunters are casters. Except worse. They’re uninterruptible from greater range and have all the utility.


Having hunters this strong against mage has allowed Mongo Melee to run rampant in SS. This might be the worst meta.

Nerf Hunters ability to kill mages, buff their ability to deal with melee.

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