Mindgames is too strong in PvP

Yea Mindgames is broken what are you guys disputing???

Cannot believe people think that convoke, hunt, toll, mindgames shouldn’t be close to the other covenant abilities for other classes. I have primordial wave a flameshock that shoots 1 to 4 additional lavabursts out for a 6-20k spread damage across multiple players which is not instant and its instant damage is 1-2k. Mindgames sometimes crits up to 20k alone, has a game breaking effect on hybrids, and completely shuts down survivability of shamans guardian proc.

Stun healer blanket silence hybrid so he can’t ground 100-0 with a Mindgames crit + other damage. It’s not okay to be able to burst with a covenant ability that easily and really is strong for how low of a cooldown it is. Especially for shadowpriests running the crit talents.

Just think of the easiest example. Hunter Priest and Jungle. They legit blast people in mindgames setups on rets, ferals, enhance, boomkin, firemage, elemental shamans, and healers with no dispel up.

probs me and my brother if it was with a rogue.

grinding that necro renown up for palid legendary :slight_smile: don’t miss mindgames 1 bit fleshcraft too good!

I think mindgames is ok, but it’s just been even more punishing with the addition of shackles.

I think the upfront dmg portion of it needs to be looked at. Maybe make it unable to crit. No reason that such a strong ability should also be able to crit for 12k

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pls fix mr bliozard

This I can agree with. The direct nuke damage is possibly too high but the design of the spell IMO is good.

Nah it just is what it is tbh

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Mindgames ehhh I just want the Hunt to not be fakeable

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Mind games isn’t that bad, it’s manageable. Compared to 1 min convoke and condemn spam. Ran into a resto Druid running convoke legendary and he would kill me in a stun as the match would go on. 1 min convoke needs a nerf. Mind games is nothing compared to other stuff. I got hit with 2x 11k bites followed by a 24k bite. That’s all my health lol.

id rather just get rid of this stupid new trinket and the coveys and it would be a good game

They just changed it to magic instead of curse, all the healers can dispel it now.

Kind of like the hunt right

See, this is the problem, I have toll as well. Were all crying about op things that are in PVP, NONE OF IT should be in PVP. Skill>covenant abilties, all covenant abilities should have been passive or active defensives and not offensives in PVP.

Kind of like the hunt conduit nerfed and it hits for nothing now. More like abom limb into chill streak every minute. Good thing the hunt hits for 10k non crit on a 1.5 min cd and other classes hit that much all the time. Obliterate for that much, MS, rising sun kick, final verdict, but the hunt is a big problem.

But tbf thats super not true i just got hit for a 16k hunt and another 16k hunt dot.

I’m an uh dk I don’t have chillstreak thanks for lying and being delusional about the hunts power lmfao. The dot absolutely trucks and ur a moron if you think it’s 10k dam

If I don’t have AMS I’m dead through cooldowns and you can fake cast it hmmm not a problem because Totally not bias yup!

can you get the roots from chain of ice? casting roots stops the hunt from going.

I am thankful for disable root everytime and fof parry is nice for it

i can not, i can pet kick root it tho but very rarely gonna happen. AMS is a good trade but not if they fake it

Missing out man. Renown grind is pretty lame when you reroll, but it’s actually a fun legendary. You can also cast a pws on it for an absorb if you really wanted to give it a little more health.

Also, pretty sure Necro has been nerfed in PvE, rather than buffed. Unholy Nova was strong as single target. The tool tip has changed since the start of the expansion because it was 375% of your spell power, now it’s 280%. Down with Venthyr.

that requires the transformation right?

and to be out of melee range on pet ye