Midnight: The new WoD

Which doesn’t mean anything to those of use who have no desire to “play house”.

Gameplay wise… yeah it’s very possible.

Maybe for you.

The only thing I dont like is housing is neighborhoods only. I want solitude not Karren neighbors

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Seems like a reading comprehension issue.

I’m stoked for Midnight, because I don’t have that issue, and I actually like this game.

Grr change.

Damn you Blizzard!

I love the entirely new player friendly experience of downloading 700 different addons to play the game!!

That’s fun people!
It’s fun!

I’m not just saying that because that was a system created by dev oversight 21 years ago!!

It’s good game design to be required to download random community made features into the game to make up for basic missing components and necessary information!

People upset about this definitely aren’t just upset because they’re used to addons and are afraid of change or anything.

Why don’t you play any of the incredibly good single player games out there? This is not your game, this is an MMO at the end of the day.

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Sure you can make an addon that displays a flowchart as a static PNG…

But if addons are completely blind to the combat state in 12.0, then Hekili is dead plain and simple

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It’s actually much worse than WoD since they’re nuking all combat related addons as well.

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I am regretting my preorder I did not sign up for a more boring to play class I hated going from my mop classes to wod it sucked so bad

Sure rework and prune stuff but if it feels worse than before you failed at pruning and rework. Blizzard forgot about fun last time and will likely happen again

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If Kirika could read this, they would be very upset!

You can always ask for your money back …just put in a ticket …

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I dont mind the easy to pick up and hard to master idea. I hated in WOD where they made everything simple. Figuring out\mastering a spec to me is the most fun part of the game. I also dont raid so i dont care about encounters in raid.

I honestly feel like this is basically what they said in WOD, they pruned a bunch of classes half of the classes felt way worse than they did before then they fixed it by adding it all back in legion again. If they mess up this rework i can see this basically being wod… looking at mage and a few other classes on the alpha i can see this is might be the case

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I feel like every expansion that we go through this, everyone get excited for new expansion and they preorder the expansion without thinking. But as soon there rework/prune comes for some classes mostly some players gets pissed off and wants a refund. you could request a refund but if u boost a character to lvl 80, you’re out of luck.

If they do the wod “perks” again I wouldn’t be surprised

I setup the OneButtonRotation (OBR) thingy to act like a single-icon Hekili indicator (not a button you push) and it’s an abysmal substitute because OBR doesn’t include cooldowns and so it’s suggested rotation doesn’t build up (or spend) resources (like holy power) in anticipation of using a CD or synergize (e.g., occasionally refreshing the multiplayer bonus by using barbed shot as needed, not on cooldown).

That’s all complicated enough interaction among abilities (next ability changes based on previous ability used) that an addon like Hekili is pretty helpful to a larger number of players (it has 60M+ downloads!) focused on improving their DPS throughput with a better rotation than without such an aid.

The OBR falls really far short. So disabling combat add-ons like DBM, Details, and Hekili without COMPARABLE replacements baked right into the game seems premature. We know that Blizzard’s implementation of popular addons in the past has typically offered a fraction of the functionality the original addon provided.

I can’t speak to the boss timers Blizz baked in as those won’t be seen until Midnight Beta (maybe some WoW content creators will see it in Alpha), but I expect it to be less useful than DBM Core (570M downloads!!).

I’m fine with them providing a path that new players don’t need to download combat addons, but I don’t think they should remove them (unless they implement a vast majority of the features from those addons, which would likely be too costly for them to build and maintain going forward).

…and for the nit-picky, I know they’re not removing addons, but rather removing most (if not all) real-time combat info from the public API that addon devs use (so “effectively” removed if it’s disabled and intentionally broken).

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I don’t play Mage. I mentioned that I only checked out stuff relevant to what I play.

But that’s still more complex than vanilla caster dps was. You just spammed shadowbolt/fireball/frostbolt etc 90% of the time if not more.

But the video did also mention that there were other abilities that they hadn’t picked up like flamestrike. But that aside, that’s early alpha content and there are likely to be more changes coming before the expansion is live. Plus the fights are also far more complex now in general now.

It’s definitely not going to have a crippling lack of content with half of what little there is confining you to a personalized instance, or an x.1 patch that adds barely anything to the game because of the devs just giving up on the expansion and funneling its remaining budget towards the one after it, so no, I don’t think it’s going to be another WoD.

Just a few months ago, this board was full of people pinning all of their wildest hopes and dreams on Midnight: high elves, all the other elves merged into one race, tinkers, necromancers, bards, paladins for every race, etc. Now, they’ve announced changes that you disagree with and you think this expansion is going to be on par with one that was straight-up abandoned halfway through.

i love wod

The amount of people who STILL call garrisons player housing to this day, despite the fact that the actual housing system is 2 months away and looks literally nothing like it, is completely baffling.

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