Rage-bait thread
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Yeah no, not really. The ability prune in WoD was significant because we had the very simple MoP talent design still, and so a lot of abilities were part of our spellbook so that classes still felt the same as they did before MoP. Blizzard also added a lot of abilities during MoP to each class as part of their ‘bring the player, not the class’ design philosophy, which didn’t pan out, resulting in a lot of abilities being pruned in WoD.
With Midnight a lot of talents are being removed, moved or changed, but not a lot of abilities by themselves are being removed, and new talents or gameplay functionality is being introduced or focused on to make up for that. A great example of this is Multi-Shot for Beast Mastery Hunters. You can already make entire builds without Multi-Shot or any of the talents that enhance it like Beast Cleave right now. But in Midnight instead of Multi-Shot, BM Hunters will instead get a pet based AoE attack that will also trigger talents like Beast and Kill Cleave.
These two systems are not remotely the same.
Midnight has quite a few expansion features coming to the game, and expands on existing features rather than scrapping/replacing them.
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I don’t understand why you think making this change means people no longer have any options and they’ll have to obey your frivolous wish to control how they do entertainment.
People always have options. I’m sure you’d be happier if you and your 19 best friends were the only ones left in the game when they pulled the plug on content development because you aren’t worth it.
It’s curious that the cute suburban neighborhoods of cozy alliance cottages are what they show us when the horde gets a spiked garrison. I hear there’s something else, but they keep throwing that garrison town hall in our faces.
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I will not be playing this dumbed down version of the game.
I hate the goal of making specs more “approachable” when many of them never felt better to play than now.
Sometimes it makes sense to remove certain complex interactions, especially if they are not fun to play around like echoes of the great sundering, but this blanket removal and simplification of the gameplay is completely removed from what I want in wow.
Screw this, I will not play such an abomination.
Oh no what about the poor casuals that aren’t doing the content where playing the rotation perfectly matters? Also I have my doubts whether people will like this extreme simplification, even the casuals. No interactions and little to learn make for a very boring experience.
A shame I liked the direction DF and tww were going. Tww might just be the last expansion I play.
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They already revealed that the faction neighbourhoods will have (to start with) Orc, Blood Elf, Human and Night Elf architecture options, and a Blood Elf exterior was shown in the Deep Dive video yesterday.
Other races will get exterior options added over time. Although interior options will be available for all races.
Okay, hope you find a game to play that you enjoy. But the game isn’t being dumbed down at all, so you’re wrong about that. More approachable =/= dumbed down.
The game is currently in a state where certain classes/specs require custom UIs or weakauras to be played optimally. I think we can both agree that shouldn’t be the case right? The balance should be set between OBR and UI Management Simulator.
Which is precisely what they’re aiming for.
Someone from Mal’ganis being toxic and flexing their lack of work?
Must be a day ending in Y.
By the way get Keystone Legend at least.
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“We told you we were giving you a spiked orc garrison, so you should be fine with that. 5 or 10 years from now you may get a new housing option. But live in that garrison, lel.”
It’s not going to take them 5 to 10 years to get more options available. Hyperbole doesn’t help move the discussion along.
I expect they’ll be adding more options for players with every major patch and future expansion. Housing is something they have an entire internal team working on.
It absolutely does mean that, have you looked at how many specs are playing on the alpha?
It absolutely is dumbed down, outright trash in some cases.
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Really? They’ve given you a schedule and guaranteed when you can permit non-orcs to have a home that doesn’t look like a garrison?
I fully expect that even if they give us a date (which will be quite a bit off into the future), they won’t be able to release on time. I’m not sure why I should trust your “trust me, bro”.
Well darn… when you put it that way…
I’m avoiding looking at alpha footage as I don’t want to be spoiled with regards to quest content or what each zone has in it. That being said, I’ve looked at the patch notes for the alpha, it’s not ‘dumbed down’, not by a long shot. You’re being hyperbolic.
They’ve quite literally stated this in various interviews and public releases about housing. It’s not my fault you didn’t pay attention.
Don’t like that other people get to play with your toys too little man?
Respectfully Akarilisells what are you talking about, fire mage has been downgraded to 2 button spec. In what universe is pressing 2 buttons fun gameplay?
Here’s footage incase you havent seen it
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What these people are missing is that interactions drive complexity to a degree.
A spec without interactions is a boring spec, therefore a good, fun spec requires at least some degree of complexity, removing all that complexity in favor of simplicity will inevitably result in more boring,uninteresting specs as a general rule of thumb, which is exactly what we are seeing.
So yes, it is dumbing down the game
Also the apex talents so far look to be extremely underwhelming
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Yeah I seriously doubt this, again, being hyperbolic isn’t doing anyone any favours.
Seriously people, ditch the hyperbole if you want to be taken seriously.
And yeah, looking at that video, you have preheat deliberately not putting additional abilities on his bar, and avoiding speccing into active abilities that you would put on your bar. Hell I can tell he’s not picked several talents which would grant active abilities to put on the bar like Flame Strike and Meteor.
That’s your claim that Fire Mages in the alpha is now a 2 button spec? Really?
I can play Fire Mage that way right now. I can remove all my abilities from my action bar on my mage, only put fireball and pyroblast on there, pick as many passive talents as possible (and not spec into active ability talents) and just spam fireball and react to procs. It is doable. Is it how I should be playing? Absolutely not. Also notice how he ‘claims’ that he has all his abilities on his action bar, but never actually shows you his spellbook? Yeah there’s probably a reason for that.
Hell if I was making his video the first thing I would have done would be to show you my spellbook and show you what abilities I have on my bar and what abilities aren’t on my bar. Then I’d show you the talents which grant active abilities and which don’t, so that you have a much clearer and detailed picture about how the spec has been changed, rather than a ‘trust me bro’ style video where you just have to take my word for it that I’ve made my character’s spec as complex as it can be.
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Oh my apologies carhagen my Phone seemed to have glitched there for a second and didn’t show the full message.
Edit 1: So I read the whole post carhagen, the mind point I’m trying to express is that someone’s CORE rotation should not be just 2 buttons as pre heat showed. A core rotation should minimum be atleast 4 button.
Im here for the long haul after FF14 tanked with DT. I am looking forward to midnight!
About that, seems Blizzard uhhh took inspiration from FF14 DT sadly
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Didn’t know “several abilities” are now numbered as 2 lol.
Yes, he literally had every spell on his bars except for 2 from talents, amazing.
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