Meta-gaming (Cheating) Ruining Immersion in Wow

Oh definitionally lol. Especially in the PS1 games where there’s spots to activate swimming in the air glitch, and the second game has a double jump glitch.

Also fun fact for Enter the Dragonfly, you can literally headbash though a specific spot on the portal, go flying though and end up on the final boss. Best speedrun times is like under a minute or 2. :laughing:

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I think the core of people’s issues with the meta is not it in itself, it’s that in WoW you have other people enforcing it. Where as in Spyro or single player games, it’s a choice you get no pushback on.

But I suppose that’s an assumption.

Ehh, i mean, if you’re rolling with people who wants to push very hard and get the best times and etc, not necessarily just complete it, then yes, that does happen.

Thing is though, WoW also allows the choice you get no pushback on either. It just depends on what people you’re rolling with.

I know it’s cliched to say “Make your own groups, friends, or etc” like that, but there is a reason why people say that.

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Which is why you basically never participate in the topics.

248 total topics viewed. 135 of those yours.
334 posts created. So about 2.5 total posts per thread on average. You have 8 posts in this thread, making it a large abnormality. To balance it out, you wont post again in your next 3.

You do not get to dictate what cheating is.

“Meta gaming” is not cheating.

No. It breaks no rules.

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As someone who pugs 90% of my keys, I even say this to people lol.

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Blizzard makes the game, blizzard sets the rules, including what is and isn’t cheating.

Man i miss the old RP days back when it was good. Now RP servers are bad bad.

As an RP player-- No.

No.

^ This is reason why it’s not.

This is the wrong definition for an MMORPG like this one. Meta is different for different types of games. From mobile, to tabletop to MMORPGs.

Here’s the one you’re actually looking for:

In essence, a “meta” in gaming terminology is a generally agreed upon strategy by the community. Said strategy is considered to be the most optimal way to win/ has the best performance at a specific task. Some people have defined meta as an acronym meaning “most effective tactics available”.

For a tabletop game, sure.

Well that’s just false. You do realize that the information people acquire was acquired by people from playing the game, right?

I think you’re referring to min-maxing more than anything else.

This topic doesn’t make much sense. I can see why people would view it as a troll thread. Toss out some trigger words and bam, 50 replies.

This is his thrid thread he made today so… most likely not.

In the last 7 days, he made like 13 threads.

We get it bro, you’re bad.

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There is nothing intrinsically wrong with making multiple posts on GD (unless its repeated posts on the same topic). It is a discussion forum and if someone has a topic they want to discuss that relates to WoW, they are permitted to do that without any limitations. And as to flagging it, I can’t see that it fits any of the Flag options. Just because someone doesn’t like a topic or the opinions expressed in it is not a reason to flag.

If anyone doesn’t care for a post or posts, the option is there not to click on it and read it. Or to do so and Mute it so you don’t see it again.

Do I agree with the topic of this post? I don’t particularly care; I clicked on it to see what the thing was about and the first thing I see is someone accusing the OP of effectively spamming because they post frequently. When has activity on this forum become a crime?

Don’t like their posts? Ignore them and Mute them. It’s easy.

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There is an interesting psychological dynamic at play here. The OP’s detractors keep attacking, by posting inane negative comments about the OP. But Yet they keep coming into the threads and posting their silly accusations. Appears that they have a love-hate situation with the OP.

On one hand they hate him/her, on the other they can’t wait to post in the OP’s threads.

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Your premise is stupid. It’s not cheating to use resources outside of the game.

Step away from chat gpt please, or at least stop spewing the nonsense it outputs at us.

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This is a perfect textbook example of the Love Hate Dynamic. Annastasi has posted replies to all of the OP’s threads.

Implications of false accusations: The above implies that the OP uses Chatdpt. Or is a chat-bot.

Hence is Defamation:
Defamation describes something very mean and completely deliberate, essentially a false accusation against someone or an attack on a person’s good reputation. The terms libel and slander — written or spoken lies about a person, group, or business — both fall under the category of defamation.

There are roleplaying servers right there waiting for you.

No.

Not for me.

I don’t think so.

I didn’t say they can’t do that. I’ve said they most likely don’t care about what their talking about with that many threads in a day/week. Implying that it might be possible they do, i just find it hard to believe given what i’ve seen.

I can tell you this, that calling something that Blizzard allows, “cheating”, falls under trolling at this point, given the amount of threads that were made with this sort of premise that Blizzard isn’t going to give in to.

“Oh, Flying is cheating!”

“Oh, addons are cheating!”

“Oh, using easy specs are cheating!”

“Oh, Multibox are cheating!”

“Oh, Sharding and teleporting to ques in PvP are cheating!”

“Oh using a browser on your phone or your other montior to look up guides are cheating!”

The only times this was applied, if say somebody was teleporting around in the Arena and has godmode on. Actual cheating to put it shortly.

And what’s ironically funny about Metagaming, is that it’s always argued that your performance would be worse by trying to follow this stuff without understanding a good lot of it or just copying talents and everything and thinking you’re good to go, that being “meta-slave”.

Nobody has said “Activity on this forum is a crime” but you. And quite frankly, it’s a strawman that has no business being here given OP here. :roll_eyes:

OP made like 13 threads last week. That’s nearly 2 threads a day. That takes work. A lot of people here, myself included, can barely make 1 or 2 a week. You really can’t realistically expect effort that doesn’t come across with intention to spam, beyond from just posting, from all 13 threads in the last week.

And we both know, you would call anybody else other then OP here, a spammer if they just made 13 threads a week. Let alone 7.

…Yet you don’t follow your own advice when you clearly didn’t like my post, where i’ve pointed out that OP did 13 threads last week. Interesting. I wonder what’s the excuse here. :thinking:

I also wonder what’s your excuse here for going after exclusively me here, considering Askton more or less pointed out the same thing…

And i also like to know your excuse for agreeing with comments like this… :point_down:

…Despite the fact the accusation of them putting out 13 threads or not really participating much are actually true as Askson and i have proved, and i’ve pointed out that anybody can see that since after his healing DPS thread, he made 13 threads last week, and you also seem to agree with somebody calling person out for using “ChatGPT” as if it’s defamation tactic. When that person doesn’t know what defamation is, especially since their not considering that OP’s own actions and words harms more to their reputation then just a silly label applied to them anyways. (A Label while i do see where their coming from, still disagree with all together because we don’t know if OP used ChatGPT honestly)

And funny enough, AI doesn’t seem to take your Advice either by taking up posts they don’t like either, but you don’t seem to bothered by that fact to tell them that. Just only me. :thinking:

Expressing an opinion is fine, we all do it. But you insinuated that you agreed the person doesn’t care about their posts. Unless you (or this Thaozotl person) are telepathic, how can you possibly know that? And why does it even matter? People often post a topic and then say something like “Convince me”, which is obviously meant to say I don’t really believe this. Do you berate them?

Oh for goodness sake. People here accuse Blizzard of all sorts of things all the time, including things like lying, misleading and so on. Again, do you flag them for that? Or do you just cherrypick things to make a point?

Let me know where it says anywhere in the Forum Code of Conduct that there is a limit to how many separate topic posts anyone can make in a set period of time. We all need to know this limitation so we don’t hit a critical meltdown point.

You didn’t make a post, you made a comment, with which I disagreed. Is anyone allowed to disagree with you without being called out for it?

I will take my own advice at this point and put you on Ignore. Feel free to do the same for me because we obviously have different ideas on how others should be treated on this forum. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

So what? Your opinion about what someone else should do is meaningless and you are attempting to defame the OP’s character, by asserting that somehow posting several threads is a criminal offense. Your entire assumption is irrelevant.