I think giving Velves more hairstyles (not Belf ones) is generally the best approach for keeping them distinct from one another. I’d love to have some more casual hairstyles for females since most of the ones they do have are fancy. In the exact opposite fashion, I’d like more fancy hairstyles for the men since most of their hairstyles are very casual looking. If Belves can choose to be either casual or fancy, so should Velves (just with different styles).
Those look great! But I’d still love to BE ones, like the chrono-mgae one!
I would love some Blood Elf Hairstyles on the Void Elves as much as seeing the Blood Elves get the Void Elf features with hairstyles and etc if blizzard actually does that whole trade to trade thing. But probably won’t.
I love this ones look. The short hair and the nice beard…
I’m not a fan of those at all. Again none of the Males you presented have any decent long hairstyles. The one has the back part of his hair long, but from the front, it’s so short. I just don’t think they match with what people are really looking for with this. I think a better idea is to make their hair look like the Targaryen’s famous hairstyles from Game of Thrones. That fits much more in line with the high elven theme, as the Targaryens and the high elves have a lot of similarities.
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It would be more reasonable to view as being shared from Trolls or Night Elves. Since that is what all Blood Elves came from, and they have similar shades, :). No reason for them not to get that color.
Alleria likely always had that hairstyle, as it seems to more of a Celtic/Hunter/Far Strider esque vibe. But the first generation of Void Elves literally just moved from Silvermoon and they were primarily mages. So your point makes sense.
I like the new concept options you and others have shown. But especially for the men, a nice simple long, almost Loucius Malfoy like hair, just screams the traditional elf theme. Void Elf men only have balding/receding hairlines for their longer hairs. Granted they have some great short hair options, that I love.
Draenei, are the people who followed Velen, and didn’t get left behind, in the several instances where Velen just left his people when they kept fleeing from the legion. Most of them are very forgiving and gentle, and follow Velen to the end.
The Lightforged Eredar, are the Draenei that were left behind on several worlds, and banned together to fight the Legion with their new infused Light power. They are also immortal. A big difference is that the LF are willing to sacrifice themselves to go full on devotion to the light and become a lesser version of say Tyrande’s Night Warrior if you wanna think about it like that. With most of them seeking vengeance, and to eradicate the Fel, the Void, and in the case of Yrel, any who would oppose the light.
Culturally, the LF are a lot more ruthless and morally dark when it comes to war.
Why? Why do you care how someone else wants to play the game? If you don’t want light skin void elves, don’t create one but why does anyone feel the need to tell other players they can’t have cosmetic things they want?
Turning purple for a few seconds every few minutes really doesn’t bother me…it looks just like any other CD that tempoarily changes your appearance or makes you glow…lol…
Our voices sound much more pleasing than the annoyingly haughty Belf ones
Because I look exactly like a High Elf and the art director Ely Canon said these are High Elf customization options and I agree
Just cause you’re cool with turning purple doesn’t mean everyone is. Unlike other trinkets, you’re stuck with this for life. At least with trinkets I can pick and choose and cycle them out. But Entropic Embrace will always be a reminder you’re a void elf forever.
I mean, some of the dialogue sounds fine. They definitely have a high elf tone in their yells and some of their dialogue. But then the reverb ruins it, and a lot of their lines are horrible. That would be their jokes, their laugh, and their flirts. It all is off theme for a high elf.
You say you look exactly like a high elf, but again, you turn purple in combat, and while you say it doesn’t bother you… you still are just a void elf when you’re purple. High Elves don’t turn purple. And your hair. It looks like tendrils, and has a very wicked style. High Elves do not have hairstyles like that, so no, you don’t look like a high elf.
The best we can do is speak for ourselves, which they seem to be doing.
Speaking for myself, I don’t care for Entropic Embrace’s visual element. I’d even forgo the buff it provides if it meant being able to deactivate it.
High Elves, are about fashion and self care. They would have a multitude of hairstyles, which several of the Velf hairs are considered more in-style/modern, for one.
News flash, they are Void Elves. Their story and now large cultural aspect, is about the Void and Shadow magic. Obviously they aren’t going to be more High Elf themed.
Which most High Elf jokes/flirts/etc. would be making fun of Blood Elves, or talking about how they drained magic from artifacts instead of mana-tapping.
The High Elf options are supposed to be an additional feature, kind of like how a Darkspear Troll (jungle) can look like a Sand Troll now. Like you know DEEP DOWN it’s not a true troll, but you can RP as one.
It’d be one thing to say you’d like EE to be removed, or some more long elven hairs for men. But you seem like you’re just trying to constantly tear it apart, instead of even enjoying what we have currently as well.
I don’t like the void elf theme at all. It was a really stupid idea that has done nothing but poses issues. It should have been high elves from the start. Now I’m supposed to sit here and be thankful for the few little bones I’m given over the course of like every 6 or so months when I could have just had my high elf race from the get-go now, fully completed, and done in the way it’s meant to be without any of these ridiculous compromises.
Like really? What has been the point of void elves? When people are still just asking for high elves? And when they are throwing high elf options at void elves to make up for this mistake?
Because of this, I have to wait now, because of this I don’t have paladin, and if we ever did get paladin, it’d take years for them to finally open it up. We sure won’t see it Dragonflight, which is a time I’d like to play a paladin. No, maybe 2-3 expansions later. Woohoo. I should be so stoked for that, huh? WHen If we just had high elves right now… I’d be able to play my high elf paladin, with my nice high elf hair, with no stupid void elf racial, and no stupid void elf voice!
I mean look. Look at most of the male hairstyles. No high elf would be caught dead with these receding hairstyles, or these tendril-looking monstrosities. We know what they wear. We see them out in the world. Has any of them looked like a void elf? Have they? NO!
You can create a blood elf paladin. High elf paladin, same difference.
Blood elf is horde. High Elves are alliance. That’s a very big difference. I hate the horde. I’ll never make a blood elf. They are just so much better in blue.
They were NEVER meant to be High Elves. The initial concept, was to give the alliance a unique take on the High Elf idea. They were initially planned to be like Worgen, with two forms. One being the Blueberry Elves, and another being regular High Elf skin, eye, and hair colors. They believed it would be compelling to having a bit of edge to the Alliance, and to also give a reason as to why we have the race now. Since technically, the High Elves the are so few in number that every additional elf has to be cleared by the lore team.
But they said during a Blizzcon interview shortly after the announcement, that they changed their minds, feeling that it would be unfair to the Horde to allow for the two forms to happen on the Alliance for two races now.
Aside from giving the Alliance Thalassian Elves, it also gave a nice lore hook to bring Alleria back, and make her more prominent in the story going forward.
False, no fantasy setting has EVER said that any elf couldn’t or wouldn’t have a receding hairline. Even SyFy series and works don’t have a cure for baldness.
The Blood Elves who got turned into Felboold Elves grew monstrous horns, wings, and fel burned skin. The tentacles of the hair, are a side-effect of the void mutation. Which YOU CAN NOT use as an argument anymore, since they’ve added in the toggle to remove them. So that we have more High Elf options.
Be honest, they would’ve NEVER given us High Elves as they were exactly in the game. Since they copied Blood Elves entirely, and while several us, myself included would’ve loved that. They would not have copied the voice, and every single thing about the Blood Elves. Since no Allied Races are exact copies. They are all just sub-sets.
AT BEST, we’d have gotten Half Elves, that could’ve looked like Arator. Heck with Kalec’s new model. We might even see some Half Elf options come to Humans in the future.
BECAUSE OF THE COMMUNITY. You don’t have paladin. Heck, they’ve still not even given us Night Elf paladins yet. A large number of the community clamor on about Blood Elves being the Elf Paladin, is crucial to their identity. So we’ve not seen that for any other elven race yet.
The community is also why we don’t have Blood Elf and Void Elf Druids & Shamans, as they exist in lore, but the community screams that too many people play Elves, specifically this kind of Elf. So they’ve historically given a lot less in the ways of customization to the Elves, to avoid the loud minority outcry. But hopefully that changes in Dragonflight.
Again, Void Elves weren’t a mistake, they were always the plan. But I agree, I’d have rather had High Elves.
Either way, you should be happy, that we even have what we do, and that we are in fact eventually getting Paladin and even Druid for the race.
Like you can still want/ask for more features, without being so negative, and seemingly un-grateful for what we’ve been given so far.
They could have brought Alleria back easily without making her a stupid void beast. She could have taken up the mantle to lead all the remaining high elf for the alliance, and even brought in her other sister to also help lead. The whole void story has been uninspired, and not well received. So any other direction for her would have been better. Hell, they could have made them lightforged, but also gave them a means to not use any of the lightforged options. Lightforged fits better with the high elf theme than void elf does, and their racials would have felt right at home and not completely overpowering like void elves.
We didn’t need edge on the alliance. Keep the edge on the Horde. This whole debacle has proven that edge is not welcome, with people shunning void elves and wanting more of what fits themtaically within the alliance like High Elves. Blizzard was wrong, and they know they were wrong, it’s why they are throwing high elf options at us now. But it’s not enough, and we should never have had to be in this position from the start.
Blizzard can do whatever the hell they want. They could have just given us high elves. They’d have a new voice, new racials, a few different customization options, and a new story for them. That’s all we’d really need. Sure, they’d be very similar to blood elves, but they’d be on the alliance. It would be something new for the alliance, so them being so similar doesn’t really matter.
That may be the case, but we see high elves here in WoW, and none look like void elves. And there are no void elves that can look like the high elves in WoW. We can headcanon that a high elf would wear this style, but based on actual canon, on what we’ve actually seen in game or in books and comics… none of them have worn these styles, and thus you can only feel a disconnect.
I also don’t want half elves. I don’t wanna use the big dumb bulky human model. I just want high elves. No more compromises. Kalec looks dumb and his hair would be better fit for the Drackthyr or a void elf rather than a high elf with his edgy emo hair.
The community can’t stop blizzard from doing anything. Blizzard is releasing all classes for all races, but I’m done waiting. I want my high elf paladin for Dragonflight, but I’m not gonna be getting that now am I? So this whole thing is pointless then.
I’ll be as negative as I want. You are right I’m not grateful. Why should I be? I can’t play a high elf. I play an elf that looks like a high elf only somewhat, minus the hair and the beard options. And I keep turning purple in combat, which bugs me to no end to the point I no longer play my elf.
And again, I still can’t play my high elf paladin. I really wanted that for dragonflight. I’m not going to be getting that. The hell do I have to be grateful for? These few small options? Nothing but a joke. It should have been all or nothing. If they wanna keep wasting my time and throwing me little additions every now and again then I am not even gonna care and I’m just gonna give up on it.
Not exactly, if they were lightforged, they might have had them glow golden instead of purple. Which several would still be annoyed by.
False, just look at how many people threw a massive FIT about Void Elves potentially getting normal skin and hair colors? The minority screamed so much, that they took forever to eventually give them to us, and they almost didn’t.
Personally, Alleria using Void magic like she does, I think is rather cool. A lot of people, actually think Alleria having Void powers is cool.
It was actually pretty inspired, considering it has a backstory build up based on the guy that let Arthas into their city in the first place. Which is why intensive study of the Void was looked down upon, and that Magister Rommath exiled those who kept studying it.
Beyond that, we haven’t seen very much of the Void Elves, since they are still a new addition.
As for it not being well received, that was mainly due to the fact that players didn’t read the quest text, and just assumed it was rushed, since their origin story is contained in the AR scenarios, instead of the overall zone stories. Making it the only race that doesn’t have it’s story shoved in your face.
They don’t believe they were wrong, they’ve openly said that Void Elves were the plan, and we BOTH know that the Alliance wouldn’t get something because they made a mistake. Heck, the Night Elf men had messed up faces ever since WoD, and they only fixed them, just recently because they noticed a GLITCH that was also affecting the Male Nightborne faces, when they went to add more to them.
They historically only go back and give more to the Alliance, as an aftermath to what they want to give or fix for the Horde. These are facts.
The High Elf options are just simply a nice addition, to help players look more like Alleria, as well as let players RP as High Elves. As they’ve said.
The community is what DRIVES a lot of their decisions, especially when it comes to things for Elves, or that involve the Horde. If you don’t realize that, then you’ve not been paying attention at all.
A hairstyle does not make a race, and you can’t just say that a High Elf wouldn’t wear that style, because you haven’t seen it in game. That’s honestly taking the point of wanting more refined Elven hair, too far.
You do realize that the OG Elves are Night Elves, and they have mainly colored hairs like that, and the Blood/High Elves, we know have some of those colors, granted it’s a rarity.
Most Dragons, took the forms of High Elves or Humans, and Kalec chose to be a Half Elf. Whose body favored the human shape, but obviously the unique hair color, is associated with the High Elves, which they can and do have Blue Hair in some cases. Also, Kalec’s hair is NOT EDGEY in any aspect.
The alliance player based FLOCKED to Void Elves when they came out, and I saw a LOT of people playing them, even when all we had were the Velf options, because people enjoyed them, and we believed it was the closest we’d get to a High Elf. Long before we got the options that players now use a lot. So your statement isn’t entirely accurate.
They never had to include an Alliance Thalassian Elf as playable, and they never had to give us normal hair or skin options, especially when that wasn’t their plan. Oh, and let’s not forget that they gave us an option to remove the hair tentacles. Things they NEVER had to do. Let’s also not forget that Void Elves are posed to get more options later on in a future round, so there is a good chance we’d get those more High Elf options you’d like in that batch.
Like, acting how you are, just makes more people angry and hateful towards anyone who tries to talk about options they could receive or could be cool to get in the future.
I’ve already given up on it. What matters is the now, not years down the road. Who knows what will come of any of us years later. Some may not even be here. If I can’t enjoy my high elf paladin in Dragonflight, then why should I bother caring? Why should I bother caring about some awful-haired, purple-turning elf when it’s not what I wanted? Because it’s close? Close isn’t close enough for me. Maybe you are fine with getting halfmeasures. But I’m not. I will never be satisfied with only getting a few scraps. I want what I have been requesting to play as now, or they should even bother anymore. Cause I’m done waiting around.
They were not ever going to not give us the options. The few people threw a fit only because they were so scared it was gonna infringe on blood elves. And look, they are still griping about it. Because the bandage wasn’t just ripped off. Blood Elf players still think there is uniqueness to save, and high elf players still can’t play what they want. Blood elf players would have gotten over it eventually, right now they are just drawing it out and making it worse for everyone.
The current Lightforged does not glow. They just throw a big light bomb at enemies. And even if they did glow with light, I’d take that over glowing purple any day, because at least that fits better with high elves than even dark, corrupted energy. And hey, it right off the bat lets them become pallies.
Right… sure. If you really think that’s inspired. Truth is, people just hate void stuff. It’s lame. Just another bad thing doing bad things.
You really think that’s all it was for? Think of when they added those options. It was during time of bad pr and they basically broke the high elf emergency case in order to save a little bit of face. Now why would there be a high elf emergency case, huh? Why would they believe this would ever pose a big distraction from what was going on with them? Because they know high elves are a huge deal. And they are. They are the most requested race in the entire game. They know full well void elves did not end up positive. They know people would prefer high elves. This is them trying to course correct.
A hairstyle helps you feel more connected to the race via their heritage. It’s just, again, huge disconnect that there are no options to have a single hairstyle that is common among the high elves. We have to headcanon things. That doesn’t work for me.
They were the new big thing that resembled high elves. But it didn’t take people long to start getting pissed that what they are playing was not high elves and thus they ended up quickly abandoned. Only to be picked up again when the new options for high elves released.
I mean, they didn’t, but they were smart to do it. Void Elves were poorly received, much like mechagnomes. People were still adamant about high elves. Again, the only reason we got the options were as a pr stunt. They were saving them just for the occasion.
I don’t care if people get angry. I mean, I’m angry, so let them be angry. I’ll chill out if they finally give me what I want. Until then, no. Right now, all I am asking for is for EE to have a toggle off, some decent elven hairstyles that are long, and my paladin opened up for Dragonflight. (And perhaps as a bonus a way to toggle off the voice reverb.)
Until then, I will not be happy. Until then, I will never be grateful.
You’re probably already aware of it but I mentioned a macro setup you can do to achieve this right now. I recommend (depending on class and spec) creating two to four of your most common spells as macros like this for best results.
Example:
#showtooltip Arcane Shot
/cancelaura Entropic Embrace
/cast Arcane Shot
I’ve tested it on a rogue, warrior and hunter so far and it’s done a very good job of keeping it off. Only downside is the loss of the buff damage.
I’ve tried it, but the brief blip of blue is still very annoying to me. Personally, I don’t see the harm in giving players the option to toggle off either the racial, or the visual.
To be completely honest, I’d rather Entropic Embrace was a slightly more powerful toggle and something that could be customized separately, with more void assets, and a better visual element than just… blue spray point. Alleria’s looks amazing. Void Elves’… does not.