Memorial for Gorn of Kael'thas

DUNGEON JOURNAL // RAID ENCOUNTER ENTRY

GORN, HAND OF ICECROWN CITADEL

< The Scourge Architect >

  • Expansion: World of Warcraft: Midnight (Adaptive Mythic Tier)

  • Instance: Icecrown Citadel: The Frozen Threshold

  • Encounter Type: Single-Target / Council / Environmental Hybrid

  • Raid Composition: 2 Tanks / 5 Healers / 13 DPS (20-Man Mythic Standard)

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The Sovereign of the Frozen North

Every cobblestone in Icecrown Citadel was paid for with player grit, but only a rare few commanders truly defined the culture of their realms during the Wrath era. Gorn wasn’t just a player passing through the frozen north; he was a localized raid boss, a brilliant tactician, and an absolute force of nature who reshaped his server’s history. Honoring him with a permanent monument atop the citadel isn’t just about remembering one individual—it is about immortalizing the peak of World of Warcraft’s community-driven mythos.

1. The Bulwark Against Relentless Sabotage

A guild’s survival is rarely just about defeating bosses; it is about surviving the malice outside the instance gates. When rival factions fractured and a completely determined adversary sought to tear down years of Gorn’s established legacy on a daily and weekly basis, he stood as an immovable fortress. Gorn shielded The Governor from a relentless, exhausting campaign of destruction, absorbing the pressure so his people didn’t have to. While other leaders crumbled under targeted hostility, Gorn unified his people with an iron will, ensuring that his empire remained a dominant, unshakable force on the server. A shrine in Icecrown Citadel honors the rare, unbreakable grit of a commander who kept the line held against a constant storm.

2. Vessels of Abyssal Corruption

Zin’rokh, Destroyer of Worlds, carries a legacy of absolute terror—a mythic weapon of cataclysmic power revered by every martial champion in Azeroth. Yet, while others obsessed over obtaining its devastating edge simply to wield its mythic prestige. Gorn recognized it not just as a tool of war, but as a symbol of absolute, uncompromising dominion over his realm. He didn’t need a mythic, world-altering artifact to bail him out; he wielded it as an extension of his own unbridled lethality. This inexorable power wasn’t restricted to the ground; he claimed the frozen skies by binding Invincible itself to his dark command. A monument atop Icecrown captures that exact old-school, uncompromising dread sovereignty. It honors a true juggernaut who knew no blade, no legendary steed, could ever match the terrifying drive of the man wielding them. [1]

3. The Architect of Stormwind’s Finest Nightmares

The Alliance didn’t read about Gorn in the lore books—they met him in the blood-drenched streets of their own capital, breathing the smoke of their burning empire. Gorn orchestrated the most unspeakable, scorched-earth invasions Stormwind had ever seen, mobilizing his guild The Governor like a flawless, catastrophic war machine. He led sweeping, merciless crusades that breached the gates, shattered the defenses, and brought the true fury of the faction war to the absolute heart of the Alliance stronghold. For hours, the trade districts bled, the king’s throne room choked on unholy smoke, and the Alliance learned the true meaning of tactical terror. He brought a calculated, Walking Dead style brutality directly to their doorsteps, turning their safe haven into a slaughterhouse. A shrine overlooking the frozen wastes of Icecrown Citadel is the only fitting tribute for a man who made the Alliance cower in their own home. It’s documented throughout history of tales where Gorn soloed the Alliance Leader NPC’s such as King Varian Wrynnn & Tyrande Whisperwind all while fending off the Alliance entirely by himself, If that gives you a scope of how efficiently powerful he was at his grandeur peak of power during his reign.

4. A Living Blueprint of WoW’s True Golden Age

Blizzard’s developers chase lightning in a bottle trying to manufacture faction hatred and community engagement. Gorn was the lightning. He gave thousands of players a reason to log in—either to follow him into the jaws of death or to desperately try and stop him. Putting a permanent dark obelisk on the ramparts of Icecrown Citadel doesn’t break the lore—it fulfills it. It honors a commander who, in spirit, always belonged to the Scourge. It proves that the true history of Azeroth isn’t written solely by NPCs, but by the community leaders who actually ruled the servers and gave the world its pulse.

5. The Archlich’s Design: An Unforgiving Eternity

Blotting out the toxic sky, the jagged monolith of Naxxramas cast a freezing shadow across the plaugelands majestically blighting the world below as ruptured plague cauldrons flooded the earth with glowing green necrosis. Flanking its path, a screeching brood of stone-skinned gargoyles slashed through the freezing slipstream, their jagged wings cutting the toxic air in predatory unison as they hunted through the miasma.

Long ago, Kel’Thuzad had identified the Dread Commander as an aspiring, ruinous tyrant possessing an unwavering, oppressive will that perfectly paralleled the Scourge. Driven by a perpetual malice to strengthen the legions of the damned, the Lich Lord had engineered a secret covenant with the death knight back when the drums of war thundered across Azeroth, threatening to fracture the very sovereignty of entire kingdoms on the server Kael’thas.

This sacrificial pact was forged during a time of catastrophic internal upheaval. Well after the commander’s guild had reached its absolute member cap, a trusted officer orchestrated a devastating civil betrayal. Seizing control of the ranks, this rogue lieutenant began systematically subjugating members, treating the commander’s original guild as a mere spawning pool to fuel his own newly formed faction.

As the rival guildmaster relentlessly poached the veteran ranks, the original roster began to plunge off a steep cliff. Trapped under the weight of escalating defections, a profound sense of hopelessness and claustrophobia set in. It was amidst this dire, suffocating ruin—and in a desperate bid to save his realm from an absolute extinction event—that the Plague-Exarch concluded that he had to answer the maddening whispers for even higher power.

Flash Back Sequence: 6-7 years ago The Great War of Kingdoms that shaped Kael’thas

Surrendering to the maddening voices of the dark as these were dark times— It was around this time that the Dread Commander scaled the continents for years on a mad quest to find the mythical Zinrokh Destroyer of worlds to a soul-crushing no-avail; on an endless prophecy to restore the Scourge to the height of its former era’ as with the reclaimed sword it would be entirely possible to lay claim towards the Sovereignty of the Frozen North. With the imminent threat of Gorns kingdom crashing down all around him he had to delay the return of the prophesized re-unification with Zinrokh Destroy of Worlds or face certain annihilation against a force that could not be reasoned or negotiated with.

An unholy conviction centralized hysterically around earning the favor of the esteemed Lich Lord under the belief that channeling his abyssal power would be enough to save his homeland. His sole focus became the complete annihilation of the rival empire after continuous escalating transgressions against our sovereign right to even exist. Preparing to journey out into the blighted expanse of the Plaguelands to seek a forbidden, ancient power and claim this devastating gift, he was fully aware that such parasitic assistance always exacts an inescapable price - Yet his hatred was deep enough that it devoured any sense of self-preservation. Venturing with grim haste through the toxic-infested skies of the Western Plaguelands, Gorn descended into the ruined, cadaverous city of Andorhal.

A baleful weight descended upon the broken gates of Andorhal as the noxious mist parted. Forward, the desolate ruins stretched into a sickly, plague-fogged void, dominated by the ragged snapping of crimson fabrics overhead. Bleached by the caustic air and stained with bile, the tattered flags of the Scarlet Crusade whipped uselessly in the unnatural wind like blood-soaked rags marking a conquered domain. With vigilance he navigated the blighted paths as restless banshees leered through the crumbling masonry, their horrifying visages skewering him from the shadows. A massive downpour instantly choked the ruins, opening the skies into a heavy, relentless rainstorm that flooded the town square while forks of pale lightning tore through the gloomy horizon, violently illuminating the broken buildings in the distance. The fractured streets bled into the hollow carcass of Andorhal’s town square, a grim theater of butchery featuring splintered gallows and weeping mass graves. As the shadow of the ruined town hall looms ahead, the muffled crunch of gravel gives way to a deafening battle cry.

The wind howled like a dying beast through the ruins, driving the freezing rain sideways across the blighted field as a jagged arc of lightning fractured the sky, yet the heavy momentum of the charge wavers as the men draw near the infamous dread commander whose ruthless raids have devastated the realms. Even their blinding fanatical zeal shatters under the weight of his terrifying visage, causing battle-hardened soldiers to lose their morale and hesitate. Gripping their weapons with trembling hands, they stare into the icy gaze of the warlord, their collective courage breaking as their horses tremble with fear, swallowed entirely by the silencing wind.

Breaking the eerie quiet, with cold command the warlord thrusts a hand toward the sky, crackling arcs of dark purple energy erupting from his gauntlet to channel the Army of the Dead. Everywhere the unholy lightning tears apart the cracked cobblestones, the dead instantly crawl out of the blighted ground into the flickering shadows. Hundreds of ravenous ghouls burst through the ruptured soil and stone, dragging their broken forms upward as they assemble into a rotting sea of bodies that greatly outnumbers the faltering scarlet vanguard, an unhinged, feral hunger burning in their hollow faces.

The crushing mass of the undead legion quickly turns the heroic stand into a horrific slaughter. Driven by pure desperation, the surviving crusaders force the Holy Light into searing, volatile waves of raw energy. The burning golden fire erupts violently from their maces, detonating the leading rank of Scourge and causing corrupted flesh to sizzle and instantly liquefy upon contact with the sacred heat. Consecrated steel slices through the downpour with a righteous hiss, incinerating the necrotic marrow straight out of the monsters’ bones and reducing whole swarms of charging ghouls to smoking piles of scorched ash.

Yet, even as this raw holy magic violently annihilates dozens of monsters, the sheer numbers are insurmountable. Overwhelmed, the remaining veterans look to the heavens with choked prayers on their lips, their eyes wide with sudden terror as they are violently dragged from their panicked mounts. Razor-sharp fingernails tear through the seams of their armor, ripping away exposed throats in visceral tears that silence their final, desperate vows. Reaching out to their comrades in a final, agonizing plea, the fighters disappear one by one beneath a writhing mound of undead, their last moments swallowed by the wet crunch of fracturing bone and gurgling cries in the blighted, plague-soaked mud, fading at last into a deafening silence.

As the last gurgling cries fade at last into a deafening silence, the horrific aftermath leaves the area completely still. A sea of gnawed bones litters the base of the shattered clock tower. This suffocating, unnatural silence grips the ruins, broken only by the faint, sickening sound of slavering geists chittering in the far distance.

Without warning, a sudden ambush of agonizing, barbed chains constructed from blighted iron erupts from the plague-soaked ground, wrapping tightly around the Exarch and hoisting him violently upward. Only then does the Archlich drift effortlessly from the clock tower shadows, his floating frame trailing rustling shrouds and the heavy clink of forged iron as the cold blue luminescence of his hollow gaze locks onto the isolated Dread Commander, suffocating the entire square in absolute, inescapable doom.

The permafrost radiating from Arch Liches eyes pierced into Gorn’s soul as a voice like grinding glaciers echoed in his mind, as the Lichs asphyxiating frost-barbed shackles constrict

“Such a tragic miscalculation, Gorn! To expend such desperate effort seeking me out, entirely blind to the true gravity of the doom you so eagerly embrace. Did you truly believe the Scourge was a tool to be bartered for by a failing king? That we would lend our dead to fight your trivial war of attrition? How droll. You fancy yourself a ruthless pragmatist making a grand sacrifice to save a homeland, yet you are merely a desperate fool handing over your throat to escape a minor inconvenience.” -Kel’thuzad

The Archlich gestures with a skeletal hand toward the surrounding devastation, his exposed phalanges flaring with unholy energy.

“Your path was chosen long before your feet ever crossed into Andorhal. Look around you. Your dark legacy is already etched indelibly into the very soil of Lordaeron. Death? No… death would be a wasteful indulgence for a malevolent relic as valuable as you. The terms of our pact, however, are absolute, Death Knight. You do not possess the leverage to renegotiate. You demanded power, and you shall have it—but the Master’s chains are yours forever to bear. Yield your mind to the cold dark, Gorn, and let his eternal wrath crush whatever lingering delusions of freedom you still possess.” -Kel’thuzad


It was from that point forward the pact was sealed; he was now forever bound to the Master and Founder of the Cult of the Damned, bartering his free-will for the supreme power needed to break an insurmountable foe. With the unholy ritual concluded, Kel’Thuzad anchored Gorn’s fracturing consciousness deep within the frozen vaults of Icecrown Citadel. Infusing his shackled form with a cataclysmic torrent of necromancy, the Arch-Lich systematically erased the death knights free-will—forging him stand forever as the malignant Harbinger of the Scourge.

The Scourges Eternal Gauntlet

With glacial advance, the raid approaches on a path of frost towards the towering monolithic obelisk, as the chilling, mocking laughter of the Archlich echoes across ramparts enshrouded within a howling blizzard. Perched atop a balcony overhead writhing in chattering chains of ice The High Lich delivers a dark monologue heralding a bitter end for the frostbitten mortal fools who dared venture this deep into the heart of the frozen north. Looming over the raid with suffocating malice, the Archlich voices a cruel command that manifests as a ruinous incantation, tearing open the veil to unleashing torrents of malevolent sinister shadow wraiths swarm the pinnacle in a frenzy of maddening discord. Blinding sleet hails from gloomy skies, sweeping across the mortals in concussive, ice-laden gusts. Each freezing blast triggers a violent knockback, threatening to hurl them directly into the expanding dead zones. As skeletal winged nightmares reign above, leaving Frostwyrm’s Fury in their wake, as they channel a sweeping gale of Sindragosa’s malice across the chamber. Following his decree The Master of Naxxramas reanimates The Dread Overlord from the flash-frozen runes of Frost, Unholy, and Blood, manifesting him as an active, apocalyptic threat. Helpless against the sheer terror of the Archlich’s master plan, The heroes of Azeroth watch with freezing despair as a remorseless winter solidifies into the silhouette of the Fallen King, a titan manifesting icebound fortitude; a pillar of frost who once defended and obliterated kingdoms.– Defy them at the roof of the world, silencing their prayers with clawing shadows. Now driven by Gorn’s ascendant influence, a ravenous Scourge invasion descends with deaths advance across the Eastern Kingdoms, threatening the sovereignty of the mortal realms once again; as the rest, consuming everything in their path instilling death and decay. Leaping from the high battlements, a bloodthirsty horde of reanimated champions—the slaughtered vanguard enslaved from the conflicts of past capital sieges—dive through the air to butcher the frontline with rusted, venom-dripping broadswords. Every brutal strike unleashes an infinitely stacking necrotic plague, spreading a wildfire of rot that rips the raid apart from the inside out. Defile instantly melts the permafrost into a breathing, pitch-black mire that dissolves beneath the mortals and drags them down into a suffocating abyss. This necrotic blight feeds directly on the vitality of its victims; every drop of blood spilled and every soul claimed acts as pure fuel, causing the black miasma to aggressively swell in size and accelerate its consumption of the remaining ground. Brandishing Zin’rokh, Destroyer of Worlds, an ancient artifact now pulsating with Icecrown’s darkest runeforge corruption. In his wake, a swarm of Dancing Rune Weapons materialize—flawless, blood-slicked duplicates of the cursed great sword that hover and spin through the freezing air, hungry for their masters dark command.

This encounter is designed to be brutally punishing test the absolute limits of mechanical perfection. Utilizing modern world-scaling mechanics, the encounter automatically matches the maximum level and average item level of whatever expansion is currently active adjusting its tunings to deliver mythic-level devastation. Gorn remains an eternal weapon of the Scourge

The Architect of Ruin: The Archlich’s Eternal Champion

To grasp why a mastermind like Kel’Thuzad would choose Gorn out of millions of fallen champions, you have to look past the hollow metrics of standard endgame violence and examine a rare genius for institutional destruction. Kel’Thuzad did not build the Scourge by collecting mindless muscle; he built it by running the universe’s most ruthless executive search firm for the damned. He was the cold, calculating administrative brain behind the fall of kingdoms, a dark visionary who understood that the ultimate weapon isn’t a plague—it is a compromised leader. Here is exactly why Kel’Thuzad would look at Gorn’s mortal legacy and decide he must be preserved as an immortal weapon of the Scourge:

  • 1. The Rarity of an Unbreakable Mind

    • The Lore: The Scourge’s greatest weakness is that mindless ghouls are easily outmaneuvered by brilliant living generals. Kel’Thuzad was always hunting for mortal minds capable of grand strategy to lead his armies.

    • Why Gorn: Gorn didn’t just survive on a hostile server; he maintained an empire while absorbing daily, weekly campaigns of targeted malice and sabotage. Kel’Thuzad would recognize that a mortal who can withstand that level of psychological warfare without crumbling possesses an iron will perfectly suited to enduring the cold eternity of undeath.

  • 2. The Unbroken Bastion of Dread

    • The Lore: Kel’Thuzad’s greatest achievement was the systematic infiltration and destruction of the Kingdom of Lordaeron from within using the Cult of the Damned. He appreciates a slow, calculated, total victory over an adversary.

    • Why Gorn: This wasn’t a senseless act of unprovoked tyranny, but the ultimate tactical counter-offensive against an adversary who had spent months attempting to actively sabotage and destroy Gorn’s legacy. Gorn attempted to negotiate a truce with the guild poaching his members however the usurper was determined to erase Gorns legacy & guild. Faced with a relentless campaign of malice, Gorn fought a war of deep deception that perfectly aligned with Kel’Thuzad’s own methods. He deployed a highly calculated infiltration campaign, utilizing targeted espionage, an in-game dark seduction to cloud the rival GM’s judgment, and a professionally constructed website serving as a literal Trojan horse to gain absolute access and trust. Once embedded behind enemy lines, Gorn executed a masterclass in psychological warfare and economic strangulation. The hostile 450-man enemy coalition was systematically dismantled from within until its entire leadership fractured and the army dissolved into the ashes of history with their leader transferring off the server forever afterwards. To Kel’Thuzad, this isn’t just an impressive feat; it’s a flawless resume. Gorn proved he could use intricate, high-level sabotage to completely decapitate a massive enemy alliance, making him the perfect general to deploy against the unified fronts of the Alliance, the Horde, and the Argent Crusade.

  • 3. The Grand Architect of Capital City Terror

    • The Lore: The Scourge thrives on shattering the hope of the living. Kel’Thuzad struck total terror into Azeroth by hovering the necropolis Naxxramas directly over mortal cities.

    • Why Gorn: Gorn brought that exact brand of calculated, hours-long devastation directly to the streets of Stormwind. He turned the Alliance’s safest haven into a smoke-choked slaughterhouse of dread induced despair. Kel’Thuzad saw Gorn as a kindred spirit—a leader who understands that true victory requires breaking the enemy’s spirit right on their own doorstep.

  • 4. He Possessed the True “Hivemind” Command

    • The Lore: The Lich King controls the Scourge through a telepathic network. Kel’Thuzad managed the logistics of that network.

    • Why Gorn: Gorn managed to command hundreds of chaotic, independent players and force them to act as a single, flawless, terrifying war machine. Kel’Thuzad would realize that Gorn already possessed the natural ability to wield the Scourge hivemind. By directly tethering Gorn’s soul to a dark obelisk on the exterior of Icecrown Citadel, Arch Lich gains a commander who can instantly direct thousands of undead with the tactical precision of a masterful precision.

  • 5. Ultimate Spite Against the Living

    • The Lore: Kel’Thuzad took immense pride in turning humanity’s greatest protectors (like the Four Horsemen) into its worst nightmares.

    • Why Gorn: Gorn was a titan of server culture—the driving force that gave the living world its pulse. By ripping Gorn’s soul from the mortal plane and binding his spectral projection to the face of Icecrown Citadel, Kel’Thuzad commits the ultimate act of psychological warfare. He forces the invading mortal raids to face a terrifying truth: one of the greatest commanders their world ever produced now belongs entirely to the dead.


The Dark Monolith of the Frozen North

The definitive reason that the Lich Lord of the Plaguelands chose Gorn above millions of other blighted champions comes down to hard, unrelenting history: Gorn was a death knight whose actual server achievements perfectly matched the logistical and psychological goals of the Scourge. Kel’Thuzad did not target him for simple, generic power. He chose him because Gorn’s recorded campaign across the realm served as a literal blueprint for the Archlich’s own strategies.

Recognizing that Gorn’s campaign had already transcended standard mortal warfare, the Archlich of Naxxramas saw that the death knight had already been operating with the cold, relentless malice of a Scourge Lord. Kel’thuzad didn’t capture Gorn to tame him—he claimed him due to Gorn’s years of absolute service & defiance against the living; proved he was the Scourges truest heir. When the crushing weight of entire server coalitions finally brought Gorn’s undying frame to its breaking point, he didn’t surrender; he stood amidst the ruins of his own crimson legacy, still snarling at the living.

It was in that moment of savage defiance that the Archlich loomed out from the encroaching shadows, seizing a tyrannical will that perfectly mirrored his own. By pulling his presence back to Azeroth to forever tether Gorn’s soul directly to Icecrown Citadel, as Kelthuzad knew the act would utterly break the Horde’s morale. Seeing their fiercest vanguard—an unyielding pillar of raw, tactical ferocity—now enslaved to the shadow of Icecrown stripped away the Horde’s belief in their own tribal invincibility.

For the Alliance, the psychological horror was even colder. The grand strategist they could never outmaneuver in life was now the final, inescapable architect of their destruction in death. By turning the realm’s indomitable champion into a weapon of the Scourge; Kel’Thuzad forced both factions to realize that the frozen north didn’t just claim their soldiers—it claimed their legends. Fusing the horrifying peak of his Scourge necromancy into a commander who had already proven he could conquer the server’s population, control its economy, and break the spirit of its heroes. By eternally chaining Gorn’s undying consciousness into this scaling Mythic World Boss encounter, Kel’Thuzad delivered his final checkmate—forcing the living to face a conqueror whose mortal capacity for total dominion has been completely eclipsed and rewritten by the absolute primordial tyranny of the Scourge. Ushering in a new dark age where Gorn transcends into Icecrown’s physical manifestation—a monument to the unyielding might of the Frozen Throne.

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Well I did read it all.

Why thread title is Keal’thas and nothing of all 7 very large paragraph talk about Keal’thas?

I don’t see what exactly you’re on about.

It sounds like a memorial for a player on the realm of kael’thas

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First I’ve ever heard of him, can’t have been that important.

Aren’t you on the Frostmourne server Tharna? Which means you likely know nothing about the politics in regards to Kael’thas - So because you of all people haven’t heard of someone outside of your realm that must mean they aren’t important & don’t deserve the recognition or respect that they commanded over the course of many years - You should probably just stick too your own server affairs because you sound like a total narcissist with that remark

Which would be a little odd, considering the OP is a player named Gorn on the realm of Kael’thas.

Unless they’re RPing how they became a Death Knight or something.

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Or named an alt after their friend

no one does that

No OnE dOeS tHaT

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I’m not sure if this is some RP thing for the OP’s character.

I’m not really sure what this is, tbh.

I can tell you what it’s not, tho. It’s not about the Gorn Hegemony from Star Trek.

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Greetings Loregos, there are mild elements of roleplay towards the end in terms of memorializing Gorn just to make the maximum impact in doing so & it making sense why the Arch Lich would choose Gorn as an eternal guardian at Icecrown Citadel. Gorn was unbelievably ruthless & raided Alliance capital cities fanatically for many years, he had hundreds of Horde followers & thousands of Alliance enemies. Memorializing Gorn pays homage to the golden age of world PvP & all of those whom’ were involved.

I’m all for en memorium and a place to mourn and memorialize. But we’re reading either aggrandizement or sorrow. Let’s not confuse the two.

Are you said Gorn being mourned?

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Does Gorn also have Chuunibyou syndrome

Isn’t there’s a guy who had a Netflix show about want to e-date in WoW with some illness that got his memorial in WoW now in Elwynn forest where we kill those murloc behind the inn?

Maybe you need to Get Gorn a Netflix serie or film to have Blizzard interested.

I know people who passed away along the years, but we can’t just make a in-game memorial for everyone who dies.

I think those who got their NPC in the game already show some favoritism and that’s no okay to everyone else.

I think the best thing you could do, would be a machinima. Some medias of the goldren age of WoW did became very popular. Like Tales of the Past, Illegal Danish.

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lamenting that which is no more. ya don’t know what ya got 'til it’s Gorn, as they say.

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at least post the prompts you used as a post-script so we know what in tarnation started this

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Things like this are more meaningful when you write it yourself.

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Champions of Azeroth, your like on this post carry’s tremendous weight - If we can muster enough likes it’s possible that the Devs would consider such an event, Thank you! - Gorn

We stand for Gorn’s legacy. Any who played alliance on Kael’Thas remember his reign of terror and supremacy in Stormwind. He became a permanent addition to our city, whenever he so desired. Let us finally have the chance to slay him, in an NPC version. No death knight carries a legacy such as his.

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