Yea and I agree to disagree with you. Specially with your comments that legit are condescending and without support.
Oh I don’t let locks do that much as an ele but many comps don’t have ground shear earthbind caps on caster circle etc to stop the lock from absolutely decimating them.
Also ele can enable lock straight up thunderstorming them off the platforms lassoing the ranged kicked etc. lock can get in free turret stance quite often with team peels and utility.
occupy higher ground if you’re unhappy with the scorn
this actually contains the entire argument. “if” you’re struggling to parse it, ask, but all this drivel you’re posting explaining to a lock main how aff plays is what’s condescending, and offering these generalities in reply to something as specific as what soda actually said:
is what’s unsupported
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Your not on high ground my guy this is a free forum and we should all be treated as equals.
This is my pov from this season and it’s against decent rank 1s which is why I have taken a break to do some wotlk prep as it’s not fun to get absolutely rinsed by a lock just running around not even free casting however still managing to hold 10k plus and 5-7k hps if we go them.
I play outlaw ele demo ele and warrior ele which are all good comps. However the high end aff locks generally can 2v3 which has never felt like that in shadowlands.
The only thing that makes ele aff good right now is ridiculous damage from both specs combined
There is nothing else redeeming about the comp in a melee centric meta
That only happens into bad players
Not saying pure 2v3s. Just looking at post game where lock accounts for 80 percent of their teams damage while the other person is casually surviving.
https ://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t8gvtMKH0Pc
Simple video of teams facing them which had similar end results when we demo ele vs him earlier this season going 1 and 4. I don’t have a positive win rate against maldiva outside twos as he’s generally caring people there so it’s not a fair analysis but I’ve never felt games so one sided since S4.
They make games super boring imo. Them and outlaw legit make me fall asleep mid match.
Lol, enh can basically be considered a pet class
In the first two clips he’s free casting, soul rot hits max targets, dark souls, 17k dps
Almost like everything I mentioned for the aff to do “unhealable” dmg
It’s also weird of you to think that you’re close to as good as Maldiva when his spec is the best it’s been in years, you shouldn’t have a chance of winning
I agree, I don’t like when aff is fotm busted, but it’s healthy for the meta when it’s more viable than it was in s2 and 3
I’m not as good as him, not even close. but I beat him consistently pre aff lock buffs last season playing hpal thunder and ret ele disc s1.
S4 is just silly atm and boring.
Aff was like a bottom 3 spec last season and season 2 it was even worse
Not sure about season 1 I quit for a while
I think aff dmg is gross right now just like everyone else but pulling out inflamed numbers just feeds into the narrative that the spec can reliably 1v9 when in reality it’s designed so poorly in shadowlands that only the most ridiculous damage profile has finally made the spec s tier
I’m not targeting maldiva I’m saying every other game aff locks are just rinsing people at destro season 3 levels.
Maybe turbo kitty tsg dh dk thug and jungles put them down well but it feels pretty miserable to play into them. If you aren’t a comp that can just w them.
Yes the dmg is so high right now that you can kill teams before dampening if they make multiple mistakes
People are way quicker to cry out that the dmg is unhealable than adapt and learn certain tricks that tip the scales more in their favor against the one spell school caster that actually has to cast to put up meaningful pressure
I need to record some games as I generally die 6-8 min in vs them on the third or fourth dark soul since ele does decent off healing and utility to stop kills on their team.
Once damp hits heavy it’s pretty much lights out if they survive till their next go.
Maybe it’s because the games are long and feel miserable I do not enjoy it. The sucks max range to full heal feel oppressive even if I’m keeping up with them.
Unless your playing an aff mirror there’s probably some way to win quicker but without the right rng I don’t see ele ever killing aff
Idk I haven’t queued that many 3s I hate this season
We both stopped around the same this season as we clearly don’t enjoy it. I haven’t played with an aff yet but it feels like it’s my path to sliding in rating from my experience facing them as they just dot the demo pet and rinse us overtime. It’s super rare we get the kill with a good tyrant go triple cross.
Or a kyrian spear off gate once damp hits and ground cover the warrior from cc.
I dunno it’s a combination of oppressive dmg and survivability for me that tilted me into these rants.
Also the competitiveness in me to bring up the broken piles of junk each season.
Ie triune mindgames commanding shout divine toll s1 s2 necro banner and caster s3 destro and frost mage and survival resolve resonator into demo dk and finally aff locks s4.
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Not really sure what changed between this and last season because demo had its merry little way with aff last season
I don’t realistically see the dots buffs being that impactful because it’s like 250 extra dmg every corruption tick and probably something a bit bigger for ua
Too many pve buffs for aff made their way into pvp or something but playing 15 minute aff mirrors has drained all enjoyment for me, just waiting to make a devastation evoker alt and have fun in df even if it sucks
I do find it funny however the amount of complaints aff gets after not being viable for a long time, is it the play style when vsing dampener/rot or the strength of the spec
Demo was hurt due to it not being able to play mindless dk demo to the top with the abomb nerf. While it’s still a good comp it was nerfed significantly to the point it takes a bit more effort.
Dk x makes aff locks life hell for sure tho.
Rot damage is fine soul rot dark soul spikes are absolutely legendary burst levels a rotter should not enjoy. For the entire expansion ele rot damage while good has reached dumb levels currently with tier fire ele rank 2 flameshocks and rng ascendance. Same has happened for the tiny buffs aff has received every single season leading up to max haste and hp for locks end of an expac.