Megathread: Twilight Highlands Allied Races - DRAGONMAW Orcs and WILDHAMMER Dwarves

Cause they’re more than appearances…

Not really relevant. So long as someone wants to play em, and there is reason for them to be involved, they should be on the docket.

Also the sources for that link. What are they? Required me to sign on or something and I’m not gonna pay for simple source info.

Blizzard hasn’t put out any numbers since WoD last I heard and everyone else is just guessing.

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I think it’s extremely relevant. Apart from the fact that I hate the Allied race conept (we pay for the game, for exansions and for subs, we should not have to do anything else but that to gain access to any race) I would prefer that development time go towards something that benefits the playerbase as a whole, rather than less than 1% of same.

For years, Horde players were asking for the bronze/reddish colour tints and markings on Orcs as a barber shop option. But rather than do that, they created the Mag’har. And as far as they being more, there is no reason why the options could not be provided in the barber shop and let people RP them to their heart’s content.

Couldn’t help but to smile when I read that. Really makes me wish that modern WoW still had some connective tissue with the games that spawned the franchise…

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People who also pay for the game want this. You don’t override them…

We’re all equal in that regard.

Wildhammer and arguably Dragonmaw do not have the same culture and are not the same people.

Not only that both joined some time ago with the Alliance and Horde respectively.

And since both DID and Mag’har got AR treatment so too should Wildhammer and Dragonmaw(maybe Blackrock while they’re at it).

They are disrespectful to their games lore and the players who want these races by pretending they’re just a copy of their “parent” races.

Aye…

They ignore so much important lore to tromp on players for no reason.

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Never said I did. What I indicated was that most allied races have tiny representations in the list of available races. Which seems to show that most players (by a considerable margin) don’t want to play them. It is a grind to get them, and it’s a grind we shouldn’t have to do. Prior to their introduction, to choose a race all you had to do was click on the selection screen. I wouldn’t care at all what races they added if that was how it was done.

It’s the make-work aspect of it I don’t like.

Is it really so greedy to wish that we’d actually continually develop the world that we first fell in love with? Cataclysm aside, we’ve been so episodic with our expansions. It has conditioned me to not caring about any new characters, because they’re getting benched a soon as the next expansion rolls around.

I think it works as long as you’re not requiring a grind and it unlocks naturally as a part of content you would otherwise be doing. I liked the recruitment quests. Perhaps when/if they revisit the concept, they’ll ensure that there’s no reputation grind for forthcoming entries.

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I get that people want to make their own mark on the material, but that doesn’t mean they need to ignore everything that came before.

still think those skin should be normal customizations for normal orcs and dwarves, unless they can make then unique

wildhammer are already a dwarf customization, so they are done

But, Dragonmaw could work like worgens and in combat become drakonid, it baffles me how wow don’t have a playable dragon race yet.

Either way, it needs to happen. Nothing really interests me in WoW these days, but allowing me to play as a character I enjoy more than those available might help to rekindle some interest.

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This has already happened with customizations. Which is better than an extra race to me.

With Wildhammer, to a degree.
Dragonmaw aren’t at all playable.

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Good for you.

It sucks for me.

I want Wildhammer with their own racials and flavour. I want to be called a Wildhammer. Not a Bronzebeard. I want a neat heritage armor appropriate to them and a tabard to match not to mention the mount.

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Agreed. Wildhammer and Dragonmaw should have been the first allied races.

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Wildhammer is not “a degree.” Their customizations absolutely exist.

Dragonmaw are both yellow and grey skinned. They have glowing gold eyes. The only part missing that not all have are tattoos.

No one is calling you a Bronzebeard. You are simply “dwarf.” The leadership is all clans now. :slightly_smiling_face:

We have two orc and two dwarf races. Nothing in their classes would change.

I am sorry that I have a differing opinion. There is no need to get upset about it.

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You’re a bronzebeard dwarf. A Dwarf of Ironforge. Bronzebeard only.

Says so in their intros and your heritage is only that of the Bronzebeard.

You can rp a lot easier now but you’re not a Wildhammer.

Wildhammer would not have warlock or mage, or paladin, and could arguably not have Priest. (Though I’d keep it for reason.)

They also would be a strong candidate for Druid.

So for them specifically changes would be extremely likely.

I am not upset at you. I am upset at Blizzard. They’re ignoring their lore, crushing it, and tossing my favorite clan to the side like they mean nothing.

They ignore the lore of the Wildhammers and made them the least of the three clans despite their extreme importance to the Alliance and the Dwarven nations.

I’m sorry my differing opinion is causing you to feel attacked.

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Attacked? Not at all. You seemed upset, that is all.

Cataclysm changed much for dwarves. They have become all inclusive. The Wildhmers have had much lore since then. I am not sure how you’ve missed that, even in Battle for Azeroth. And I also do not agree that Dark Irons ever deserved to be their own race and Allied Races were a poor idea from the beginning. Sub sections of races would have been something to think about, perhaps. Not all of these racials and such things.

Heritage armor was also done poorly for many. But it is generic.

Cataclysm made the council of three hammers.

Ironforge dwarves are still the Bronzebeard clan primarily. The Wildhammers are separate. So too are the Dark Irons.

The Wildhammer clan lives within the Hinterlands and the Twilight Highlands. Not in Ironforge.

The Dark Irons tend to live within the Shadowforge city and in a few areas around it.

To do any of these right they need their own racials.

Wildhammer would have their Stormhammers for instance. Something very particular to their culture as well as something for Gryphons.

The Dark Iron racials I think are quite well designed.

Their Heritage armor fits perfectly for the Bronzebeard.

It does not fit the Wildhammer at all.

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That’s something that bugs the hell out of me. If they want the three clans to be equal you don’t do that by making one it’s own special model and the other a seemingly tacked on cosmetic. Don’t get me wrong, I do appreciate we have the cosmetic but it shows a lack of respect for the lore. For a clan far more important to the Alliance than Dark Iron and Void Elves, which existed for like a minute*, I can understand player’s frustrations.

*That was hyperbole, but seriously… how many could their actually be? lol

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Yeah, it isn’t generic at all. It’s very loudly culturally coded as Bronzebeard.

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