Often I find the reverse. Us alliance swoop in, kill the horde, steal the rare and get the kill credit. Isn’t that part of the point and fun of having war mode on?
The main reason I keep war mode on though is the benefit to my spells like instant aoe heal cast (instead of a long time cast) and atonement refreshing. I feel so gimped in areas of the game that disable war mode spells and talents now
So many people saying just turn it off. Thats not a solution at all. EVeryone always complains about companies that dont fix games or anything. Like that. Turning it off isnt a solution. They need to fix their problem.
They are still allowing horde to exploit sharding and server hopping to force battle for naz to happen. They encourage horde to do it. There isnt any other explanation for why they allow it when they actively suspend and ban for others doing the same thing for stuff like that.
Blizzard has worked to isolate the alliance community for years now with the ways they treat alliance racials and mounts. This is just them doing it on a scale now that you cant ignore. Blizzard is purposely hurting the alliance community with their actions now.
If just turn it off was the soultion fine, Horde turn off your warmode so its even for alliance. I mean its just easy as that, or will you not do it because it now affects your game play? See how stupid you people are when you say just turn it off.
Not a solution at all. None of you people understand it. You all just think its pvp happneing No, its Not just pvp happening. Its Horde purposely preventing alliance players from doing anything. They are 100% grieving the alliance player base and blizzard is fully supporting it.
If they werent supporting it why would they keep pushing content they know alliance wont get to experience in the main theme/mode of the expansion?
They can fix it, They just dont care about the alliance player base.
I use to fully support warmode and everything with it i have since day 1. But now its just ridiculous at how uneven it is for alliance. How they allow horde to exploit sharding and server hopping to start things and then cause the shards to be even more over ran.
Youre telling me you and a group of 10-20 alliance just go around stealing and camping horde players preventing them from even questing?
You exploit the sharding system to start battle for naz and over run shards with alliance and go around camping horde everywhere preventing them from doing anything grieffing them and deserve a ban for it also as its agaisnt TOS?
No, no you dont. You dont completely disrupt an entire factions ability to do anything for hours on end.
I never do warmode on any of my characters, horde or alliance.
Your opinion is just that. An opinion.
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no it doesn’t. Alliance doesn’t care about 30% bonus, we only care about awesome shinies, which no longer come from AOO. It’s not unbalanced. Your typical Alliance player doesn’t think there is street cred to be had by rolling around in warmode like some horde scrubs seem to believe, but with the right reward we happily massacre the horde in their own hovels to get a useful reward. The one time the devs did it right, Alliance dominated so long the AOO bonus got nerfed and actually went to the Horde for the first and last time in the games history…
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I agree.
Ideally all PvP content and rewards would be solely from PvP, and all PvE content and rewards would be solely from PvE. Nothing in PvP would be “useful” in PvE (read: best in slot, best for PvE, cosmetic for PvE, etc), and nothing in PvE would be “useful” in PvP (read: best in slot, best for PvP, cosmetic for PvP, etc).
Of course, this does mean restricting anything cosmetic that affects normal abilities to PvE content, or creating avenues to acquire the same augment from both contents. It also means that PvE, such as raids/dungeons/etc, would never provide PvP cosmetics, but those are so rare as to be irrelevant.
I’d still support this even if PvP cosmetics were common, but as it stands now my point comes down to:
Leave cosmetics to PvE, leave all not-PvP achievement reward mounts (vicious mounts) to PvE, and simply never require a PvE player to PvP ever.
With such concessions I’d suggest that PvP players should never have to PvE to be optimally efficient (or at any time in their process of getting there), either.
Unfortunately this isn’t in the cards. Blizzard appears to feel that if they don’t incentivize PvP content it might dry up. Why else would they put a whole boat load of stuff that PvE players care about behind that wall?
This is the epitome of irrelevance.
Servers are no longer a thing in terms of what we see in the world. Warmode places you in shards that are pulled from every NA server. It doesn’t matter if you live on a 99/1 A:H server, because your server balance isn’t a factor in which shards your placed in. Warmode is it’s own separate thing.
Now, do Horde sometimes end up in crappy shards? Absolutely, and I don’t think anyone reasonable would say they don’t. The problem is that if Alliance is at 25% bonus, it means that there are significantly more Horde than Alliance. We’re just shy of the worst-case-scenario bonus.
So… do Horde end up in bad shards? Obviously. Do they end up in bad shards as often? Probably not given the imbalance, and how it tends to lump. An even spread would always be Horde favored. An uneven spread is always going to favor Horde overall, but not individually. The only way it could be even, or Alliance weighted, is if some shards have a bunch of Horde and no Alliance, allowing there to be shards with more Alliance than Horde.
Nope. I don’t go around griefing players in an alliance raid. But I do engage in pvp as often as it comes up or whenever I come across horde. Had wm on since the start of bfa and don’t plan on turning it off
Funny, I primarily play Horde and I’ve never seen that memo.
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you realize not all realms are the same right?
some legit have very little horde and tons of alliance. (other the opposite)
Racials of old made serious raiders/pvp ppl go horde (they were legit better and more useful for pushing content) but after they were nerfed they are “meh” anymore.
However that doesnt give them any incentive to go back to alliance side. Not blizzards fault. Player choice mentality is the issue.
except pvp servers still exist 
Lol, PVP Happened with Warmode On?
How about get off your lazy backside and:
- Turn Warmode Off
- Form a raid group with Alliance and payback!
Honest question: Why not just shut off warmode?
Blah Blah blah and in Oceania and various R/P realms horde get stomped.
And the Alliance that outnumber Horde get the AAO buff and rewards as well.
But we put up with it.
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It should be region locked with AoO. If the Alliance out-numbers the Horde with WM On on the Oceanic Servers, then it should be the Horde on Oceanic servers that get AoO.
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If you turn off warmode then you don’t get ganked. If you don’t get ganked then you can come here and complain.
Well it should but Blizzard is a American company and like most of the forum posters N/A is the centre of the world. We only just got severs located in Australia 5 years ago.
https:// www.cnet. com/news/world-of-warcraft-announces-true-australian-servers-live-next-week/
okay which is it? alliance cowering all the time, or alliance kill squads all the time?
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Isn’t it possible to do almost everything with warmode turned off (I know there is one daily that requires it)? Why play in warmode if you are tired of taking a beating? Horde players are constantly ranting and raving about having too few Alliance to kill, help them complain more ![:slight_smile:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
yes ma’am!
/salutes
i never turn on warmode. i also never queue for bgs/arenas/1v1s/etc. but i use to.
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That’s what war mode is! I turned off WM right after I hit 120 because I’m outnumbered more than 2:1. Oddly, I can still do quests. I can fly now, so it doesn’t seem to have hurt me at all.
Literally one of the other 99% of the time u guys run but raids do attack us
i dont run cause i dont warmode hehe