I’d be interested not know when he said it. Because saying it now is just trolling considering we’re in 2021.
Huh? No I just think it’s hilarious that OP is calling for people to be permabanned for using the report function.
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In NOV. 2020 and saying it now is not trolling, I believe the election was stolen. Just because we may not agree doesn’t mean I’m trolling. It means we havea difference of opinion.
Canceling cancel culture. Thus becoming cancel culture. This machine has no breaks.
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This isn’t what the thread is about. I know OP did a terrible job of explaining things but this is what is happening.
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Punishment does not fit the crime.
Like I tried to explain to the guy who wants to start killing people for stealing a loaf of bread to feed hungry children. Getting an account permanently banned for getting someone squelched temporarily is silly. The former is cancel culture the later is just a minor inconvenience for a person.
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It’s aight, my friend is muted for 18 days and I’m next, people are too carebear and cannot take anything. Literally pushes me to not even want to interact with people anymore.
Well if your friend is muted for 18 days that is an entire other story. 18 days mean he has done something wrong repeatedly.
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Actually no, if you understood how sensitive people are in an online game it would make more sense, anything will trigger anyone nowadays, it’s kind of gross and it honestly encourages nothing but grief. If people are going to mass report at the drop of a hat they don’t deserve kindness.
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Blizzard is the one applying and upholding those penalties.
No they are not, their system is automated, If I had 10 people report you for language all at once or spam it’s an instant silence. And there is nothing you can do about it.
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This is one of the problems with making the community police itself. Blizz should pay employees to review each report and decide what action is necessary. But that costs money so it won’t happen.
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An 18 day mute means someone at blizzard looked at that.
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I imagine this is you thinking you did nothing wrong…
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That’s not comparable. Also go to an Islamic controlled country & steal a loaf of bread & your hand will be removed. Is that a fitting punishment?
Again has nothing to do with cancel culture. People don’t understand that doing things like this is a problem & it remains a problem because the punishment for it is too lenient. If I file a false police report that sticks with me till the day I die & could also be a felony. If you don’t like perma ban then fine, a 3 month ban & any more after is perma.
No it isn’t but that guy was from the US I believe and wants to kill people for stealing.
It has more to do with cancel culture than temporarily muting someone.
And this is not comparable to a few hours inability to talk on chat channels in a game…
If you’re going to bring up non-comparable things then so will I.
So you also work for Blizzard than? Because I very highly doubt you have inside information to be 100% certain conduct reports are being handled all by humans. And I highly doubt Asmongold had any action for inciting mass reporting.
Because if Asmongold truly did have action taken for doing what he does than that only tells me that Blizzard is more on the side of the botters than they are on the side of the players and value $$$ more than the actual people who play, and if that is true, than maybe we should start thinking about whether we want to keep playing this game if they don’t have the players firmly in mind as their main demographic.
I strongly suggest you read up on this: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/an0dxc/blizzard_has_dropped_the_ball_on_the_new_report/
It gives links to evidence that shows a player receiving a 30 day ban for other players abusing the report system, seemingly with no human being involved. And all it takes is 5 players to report someone before they get booted and silenced, very easily an abusable situation.
From the research I am reading it seems the ban system is fully automated until someone appeals it, and that fits in with the narrative at Blizzard when they reduced staffing numbers last time, the entire system was overhauled.
What I do know for certain is that there are complaint handling systems, my work uses one, which takes automates customer complaints and can do so with amazing accuracy and take away a very large chunk of workload from an actual staff member, companies use such systems so they don’t have to hire as many staff and can keep costs down.
It’s the exact reason why some people say they put in a ticket that estimates X days response, but get a response within hours because the system is just working itself through those tickets and allocating what it needs to a human and handling others on it’s own and why some tickets come back with automated responses. In some cases you might find a person mass responding to X, but for an actual human to review your case in most cases you have to resubmit your ticket or do it under a different type of ticket to bypass the automated system.
At the end of the day if you are reported enough times, the system will simply ban you, not a human. So yes, people can lose their accounts for no good reason, and sometimes it’s as simple as “I don’t like your server” or “I don’t like your character name” and has nothing to do with being in the wrong, this is exactly what it is about:
Someone called out OP and said they must have done something wrong, to which I gave some insight that no, some people just have a grudge against X for no good reason, we need to stop with the witch mentality and stop thinking just because someone made a post that they are hiding information and trying to make themselves look good when they are not, because that’s not true and the many things in this game need to be changed to remove negative behaviour from the game.
Sure, I can ignore someone, put them on my ignore list (which has a limit so it’s not always the answer), but at the end of the day if someone does not like you, what they are typing in chat is the least of our worries. What actions they take are far far far more consequential. Like OP, being reported wrongly, like that link I posted, players being reported by the enemy team to force someone being kicked to help their own team win, like what happened to me being abused and having my ‘teammate’ refuse to help me.
I can turn of chat, I cannot participate in the game if other things happen because there are no consequences for being a so and so while in game. Players for far too long have known they can do whatever they want, as long as they don’t say anything bad they can continue to do whatever they want and that includes grieving other players.
And even though the EULA states specifically under C, xi, 2. that this type of behaviour can result in a ban, it’s almost certainly never going to happen. How is Blizzard going to know or be able to take reasonable action against others unless there is sufficient evidence that a player(s) done what they done just because they don’t like you?
Blizzard need to step up and take responsibility or they are going to end up losing more players than they keep, and this is a part of the reason why the player base is so thin now, person A is a jerk to person B, but person A does not get reprimanded, so instead of fighting it person B just leaves and this allows person A to continue to be a jerk until person C comes along and it keeps happening.
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Blizzard has stated that it is. That is enough for me. Plus people can appeal those which means they are looked at again.
Now if you want to engage in conspiracy theories beyond that, you got the wrong person.
Also, not reading your book.
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