They listened to half the people I listed. So I guess they are listening?
That’s my point though.
I don’t want WoW to turn into a daycare for middle schoolers.
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Well, transmogs are popular…right?
I love these threads. They always attract a bunch of “experts” that argue back and forth. Seeing the dumb, uninformed people say ridiculous things on all sides is very entertaining.
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What makes this a double whammy is most of the executives who made the bad decisions which lead to these layoffs have left the company leaving the people who remain holding the bag…
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The things you listed are things that the company chose to implement. Those ideas did not come from the community.
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That someone will always do the same job for cheaper is almost always true.
Hire someone for less and the work still will sometimes be the same, rarely be superior, often be inferior.
The belief by upper management that workers; technicians, programmers, engineers, and hourly workers et al. are interchangeable parts has killed many promising projects, and not a few whole businesses.
In the 90s a popular justification for outsourcing was that workers in (China, the Philippines, take your pick) would perform the same tasks cheaper.
Yet in spite of the fact that upper management in (South Korea, India, …) worked for much less than their American counterparts, in fact a much larger offset than in the case of the workers’ positions being outsourced, no board of directors ever suggested outsourcing the CEO, CFO, COO et al. to Korea.
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…but no company will ever only implement things the community asks for.
Let’s look at your analogy:
WoW is not my house. I do not own it. I just pay a fee in order to visit it. I pay rent, if you will.
As a renter, I can’t fix what is wrong. I can’t replace the leaking roof. And I keep calling the landlord but he refuses to fix the roof. Or the plumbing, walls, heat, or floors! What a crappy landlord.
Of course I will not burn it down. I will just move elsewhere and stop paying rent.
But don’t be surprised when I feel satisfaction at seeing that slumlord lose his livelihood because all his renters moved out and his properties were condemned.
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Okay, well he’s a slumlord so you just lost your security deposit, have to pay ANOTHER security deposit and now have to pay to have all of your things moved into a new home or apartment.
Worse yet, if we want to complete the analogy, since WoW in your example is a slumlord or bad apartment then every other MMO which is doing worse than WoW right now, they’d be an even more rundown apartment run by and even slummier slumlord.
So, yeah good job you just payed to downgrade to a worse living location, but at least you got to watch someone else suffer because of… reasons.
That’s cool and I agree. What needs to happen is the game developers and community need to have an actual conversation about the game and what needs to change. That hasn’t happened. At all. And it’s killing the game.
A conversation about what with who? The community wants contradicting things. Or irrational things, typically.
There are decent people in the community with decent ideas. I’m not saying that the trolls need to run the game. I’m simply saying logical, reasonable players should get together with the game developers for a decent discussion about the current state of the game and how things things could improve.
There has yet to be anything like that and I feel it could do everyone a huge service if it did.
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Why should these people that have no stake in the decisions be allowed to run WoW?
There are people who care about this game. Some of them are intelligent and have great insight as to what makes WOW fun.
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Once again. Why should people that have no stake in the decisions be allowed to run WoW?
Its not their job on the line. Its not their paycheck. Its not their career.
The customers are the ones who pay for their paychecks. If there were no customers there would be no product or job or career.
The product, job, and career existed before the customer.
What happens when a customer’s idea gets implemented and its a bad idea? Does the customer suffer? He got what he wanted. But the employees surely may.
There is a reason why I have never heard of a “customer run business”.
Alrighty. Thanks for your insight. I’ve learned a lot from you, Askton.
I think I need a knife to cut through all that passive aggressiveness ![:stuck_out_tongue:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/stuck_out_tongue.png?v=6" ":stuck_out_tongue:")