Many will likely quit halfway through SoM

[Redraider-grobbulus]

@Xanthak-durotan

People need to realize that they don’t need BiS for every slot in order to clear content.

Not gonna lie, my fear is people getting less BiS will cause raids to prune out less geared people more.

[Xanthak-durotan (Xanthak)]

I think at some point, there’s going to a shortage of bodies, they’ll need to take them.

Heck, it’s happening on some TBCC mega servers right now regarding guilds and players. Demand outweighs the Supply right now.

[Tentaclatrix-kelthuzad (Tentaclatrix)]

@Testoraeu-aggramar

Its not though?!

The Rank 14 system was implemented months after release, the first weeks we had no BG´s and you had to have your rank to equip your gear.
We also did not have xrealm pvp but DHk´s and a much stricter rank system where only a single person could be Rank 14 each week!

XP gain was much lower, AV was a battle for days not 5 minutes and you had no layering either.

People that talk about Vanilla being Vanilla because of world buffs or what not, most likely never played Vanilla if this is the only thing you remember about it.

2019 Vanilla wasnt and 2021 will also not be close to what we had in 2004/05.

As for those realms, they are clearly for retail players who want a quick run through content when Shadowlands offers no new content. Everything hints that way, why else speed it all up with the “prestige” to clear raids, as if that was the main thing at Vanilla.

Only 5% or so, even reached Naxx back then.

I feel that it shows once again, that so many Vanilla memories are coming from folks who did pirate the game, but never truly saw it in its original state.

Do you folks even know that the talent trees in 1.12. were not the ones we started with? That flightpaths took 20 minutes or more, that the ship only came a few times an hour and monsters actually respawned inside dungeons minutes after you killed them?

Spare me the rhetoric. I was there when it originally came out.

All those points your making, I’m not seeing em being repeated here. I’m only seeing people lose their minds over World Buffs. It’s laughable. People really want to watch a boss die in a minute with little resistance?

Pleeeeassse.

[Arielba-sulfuras]

source: ur butt

[Arielba-sulfuras]

those are two separate groups of people, bud.

[Summonok-arugal]

Playing a ret paladin in classic and complaining it’s boring is like intentionally stepping on poop and complain your shoes smell.

Since it is a solved game and you already have the knowledge ahead of time and know exactly how all classes play out why would you not just play something else that looks more fun?

Not sure why so many want to try fitting a square into a round hole, it’s not going to work, just go with the flow and pick something enjoyable, the paladin in classic vanilla is a healing class, the whole “spec identity” garbage is a retail philosophy that never existed in vanilla, you played the class, not the spec.

[Enigmuh-mankrik]

@Arielba-sulfuras

those are two separate groups of people, bud

ok, I’m talking about one of those groups lol

YOUR MOVE ARIELBA

[Nocht-gurubashi]

Sorry you cant cheese raids with world buffs.

[Megarune-frostwolf]

That’s why I’m going with wrath Is because in wrath you got to play all aspects of your class and all of them to a certain.

This level are all good when you think of a Is a paladin you think of people like uther Was others just sitting there standing back just healing no he was there with his hammer Is smiting and delivering divine Justice.

What did tarian do Was he sitting there back healing yeah he did to it agree but he was doing a lot more than that he was attacking the horde with a sword and shield

My point is yeah you should play the class and all 3 aspects of those class should be usable it shouldn’t be oh well I’m erect how well I’m a reptile and so I know I’m actually garbage for anything else except for healing.

I want to play a Druid so I get to uh I get to give mark of the wild and maybe some healing and yeah that’s kind of it If I go Ferrell I have to sit there and farm a maze from nomer gono more gone forever.

I’m going with wrath classes because One Is everyone is If you play a paladin you’re not just stuck being a healer.

And the same thing for a Druid That’s what rent did it made it so there was no more meme specs There is nothing wrong with that.

I’m not saying I want everyone to be number one on the DPS what I’m saying is Is if a fury Warrior is number one And hes doing we’ll say 18k dps Then the lowest should be doing 11k

Is that was the type of balance that Ralph had on top of that yeah it’s a solved game but with these changes it would shake up the meta considerable.

Hey all the sun we don’t know who the best DPS class is right And on top of that all the problems with all the other classes are basically sold.

Is nomaroon Ken All of the tanks have a taunt the list goes on There is nothing wrong with that