Manual Crowd Pummeler and Druid Tank

Could play with everyone doing 200dps too but I don’t see why you would want to

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Downplay it all you want but you were straight up wrong. 90th percentile DPS Warriors still 30k threat below me at the end of the fight with 1k dps. Would have needed to do 1,300-1,500 DPS before I would have needed a Pummeler.

Yeah a good kitty will do so much more than a sidelined Protection Warrior. I wouldn’t be surprised to see some successful guilds forego Warrior Tanks entirely since you’re only really needing Spell Reflect for Deaden on RoS. Otherwise Pally MT with a truck load of Ferals would probably work just fine.

What a stupid take on what I said.

I was just explaining why he was able to hold aggro without an MCP. Nothing about that was shaming for playing outside the meta. Feral Druid as a tank is already outside the meta, so if I were doing that, I wouldn’t even be entertaining someone playing it optimally, let alone playing it suboptimally.

I don’t care how he plays. That crap doesn’t affect me, at all.

Except I wasn’t. Your DPS were almost all green and gray parses with a handful of people 80+ who were attacking adds.

Of course when people give you a 10 second threat lead and don’t hit your target non-stop, you can hold aggro. Actually, you couldn’t even hold aggro, and lost it temporarily to another tank, which sort of EXACTLY proves my point about not being able to compete in threat against Fury/Prot.

If you’re too lazy to farm an MCP, fine, and if your raid group’s DPS is so terrible that you don’t need an MCP, I’m happy for you, but don’t try to pretend the fights where people are not even attacking your target non-stop and give you a literal 10 second threat lead is at all proof that I am wrong when I say you need an MCP to hold aggro against even moderately competent DPS.

I can’t believe you think your argument is valid when your DPS have to wait around doing nothing for so long, AND swap targets periodically, just for you to be able hold aggro.

That argument is exactly like the idiots that think threat isn’t an issue because they can tell their raid to just watch the threat meter and stop DPSing, not realize how heavily you’re gimping your raid by doing so.

It’ll be funny when “wait for 4-5 sec” won’t be such a dire problem anymore when TBC phases or add spawns can’t be strictly avoided like we can now with pre-wrap Maexxna kills or pre-Decimate Gluth kills.

Case in point. Gotta be shamed when you function outside the meta. Gotta be called “stupid” and whatnot because you choose to play differently than the elites.

Here’s more of this attitude:

Remember, if you can’t argue, just call other people “stupid” and “lazy” and “idiots” and eventually they’ll agree with you, right?

The meta doesn’t control me. You can take your elitest attitude and put it where the sun doesn’t shine.

well obviously it doesn’t because your guild doesn’t have high dps, and they’re fine with a tank that plays at a lesser level because it makes you feel better.

No one is forcing you to play properly. We know that

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I am not a robot dad

That doesn’t prove your point at all. What you were replying has absolutely NOTHING to do with the meta, and my response was expressly detailing why I’m not shaming you for not following the meta.

Stop trolling and actually read the answer.

You don’t even know what elitist means, do you?

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Nobody is forcing you to play the way you play either. You might as well say, “Fire is hot.”