ngl, have no idea what’s going on
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His raid experience is irrelevant.
There isn’t a single aspect of Warrior or Bear threat that actually requires a raid to determine.
Raid experience should never have been brought into the conversation. It’s self aggrandizing nonsense.
Its like saying that you need a raid to determine Procs Per MInute on an enchant or weapon. You don’t. So why would you mention raid content at all?!
Threat mechanics were determined before raiding existed in WoW…Hence why those fighting Ony for the very first time actually had threat meters.
My point should have been self explanatory…
We understand that. We do.
Mobi’s incursion into this thread was mostly to pooh-pooh on MCP farming because it isn’t needed at all after citing Molten Core, and then being dismissive of multiple people saying “Well sure if you don’t play with very strong DPS, but otherwise MCP becomes very important” with a curt “Game’s not hard.”
We know all about the break points and the on-pull RNG that can screw a Tank and the steady state TPS we can do and so forth. However, when someone appeals to their own personal experience as the full depth and breadth of the discussion, noting a supreme lack of experience means a helluva lot more than pulling out the spreadsheet, something he specifically mocked:
I get you find it distasteful, but if numbers and math aren’t going to convince someone, experience is open season, notably when they bring it up. No one really likes being on the receiving end of a proper ad hominem argument (not the fallacy, although those suck to get too), but sometimes it is germane to the topic when folks have other axes to grind.
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I don’t even find it distasteful. I don’t think about the math enough to find it distasteful. I’m just completely apathetic to the plea to min/max the death out of everything in WoW.
The very least that I do, right now, is achieve 9% hit rating. That, and I have the gear necessary to soak poison in AQ40. All I had to do there is get a few pieces of gear and set them in my bag.
I don’t want to take multiple trips to Gnomer for a hammer because of one reason: I don’t want to. Simple as that.
It is very VERY obvious with your recent posts that understanding math is not your strong suit.
I don’t even play a feral druid but I understand that when you do you farm MCPs for raiding. It’s not that hard of a farm. If your guild or raid group doesn’t care then I guess it’s fine, but they will probably notice if you don’t use them and want to know why. This doesn’t matter though, because it seems like you’re just giving your opinion because you feel like whining about min/maxing mostly due to you not understanding math.
It’s very obvious with your recent posts that understanding the fact that other people choose to play this game differently from you is not your strong suit.
Hey, at least I’m not naive enough to coddle narcissists.
Honestly, I don’t care about the MCP, but guilds and raid groups might. It honestly just sounds like you wanted to complain about people min/maxing.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Of course, I understand what the word means. I also understand math and simple explainations of things on websites.
You remind me of a guy who clicks on a WoW phishing link, puts in his password, and then blames Blizzard for the account getting hacked. Or a person who falls for a Nigeria scam and loses a bunch of money.
You remind of a guy who liked to under-handely insult other people on the forums rather than just accept that not everyone agree with his point of view.
From the get go along with normal tank rotation and all the new class threat drops… threat will be a non issue.
I guess I’m the only one who enjoyed farming Gnomeregan on a weekend afternoon with a 6 pack. I had this 60 and carried my 35 on my other account. We both had lots of mcp’s in the bank when I stopped playing because my friend gave up.
Seems like everybody else wanted to destroy the class so they wouldn’t have to take a few minutes now and then to do horrors old content.
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I never minded it. Will be cool to get massive attk power from weapons in bc tho.
Yeah, you’re probably right. I just mean that Misdirection isn’t going to be the cause for that, is all.
I liked that idol rework meme idea where the somewhat useless idol slot had an on use for Mcp. Could be decent for tbc prepatch.
As a whole though unless your maintanking as a bear you shouldn’t need mcps by this point with the amount of gear/items available.
Main use of Mcp is the improve initial snap threat of first two mauls, past that you should have good enough threat with the threat modifiers we have in classic
If the #NoChanges folks hadn’t had their say, I’d have said that the attack speed buff should have just been built into the Classic Feral kit somehow. Like, maybe change the way Tiger’s Fury works since the Classic version is all but useless for PvE.
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The endless MCP farm is why I rerolled resto and never looked back. 
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Since I’ll likely never see a BoNEA, I’m going to farm up a mugger’s belt and get some ACLG in anticipation of prepatch/TBC and those items converting to straight up expertise rating. Hopefully that should help snap threat since I get major PTSD whenever I hear that stupid parry sound when trying to establish threat.
Also, bring on TBC so gnomer can die in a fire.
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Hammers in Naxx and AQ are crazy good threat. 300 ap is 150 strength lol
Yeah, for threat, that’s great. I was talking more for survivability since Druids have trouble with mitigating Crushing Blows. Might of Menethil gives a LOT of stamina which is then multiplied by 1.2 through the Heart of the Wild talent.
If you’re Cat DPS, then Atiesh gives the highest AP of any other item.