Specific questions like essences are different from the broader question of world content having its own reward system.
I can see taking issue with essence ranks at exalted, for example. Is that really necessary? Probably not. Maybe it should be a cosmetic rank at that level.
Or the spare parts cost of the highest rank rustbolt essence. That’s probably overkill. A particular thing can be excessive.
Not sure, possibly.
All I know, is that there are a few of us with 30k+ dps and the rest are below that. I have my BiS essences on this mage but not on my alts but it was not a fun experience to obtain them.
I can’t get into groups who have cleared the heroic raid because I don’t have AotC so I can only get into ‘alt’ groups or groups with lower restrictions, possibly alt groups, who potato out and we don’t get past ashvane mostly.
Oregoza is pretty easy and court seems easy to me but people still die there somehow and then leave because by the time we get there, we’ve been in raid for a few hours.
Nonetheless, I don’t think the difficulty should be scaled down or anything, I just think essences should be gathered independently of rep. It’s an awful system and I’d be more inclined to do them on alts and potentially raid on alts if that was the case.
My alts pull like 20k dps and my mage pulls like high 30k dps or low 40k dps.
You assumed that she had nothing else better to do because she’d like an option to have more world quests to do. You can clean the entire expansions zone in under 2 hours.
If you had 12 characters then you might be doing world quests all day.
Never said it was.
Asking for more world quests to enjoy on your main isn’t gonna have you sitting on your hump all day.
Sounds like mechanics. Tanks probably arent spacing coral correctly. Bubbles are probably replenishing her shield. Ppl probanly arent destroying coral with the arc and some dps are probably trying to look good blowing their load at the start. The fight is about control until the shield is down then you go ape sh#t
Mainly killing corals, and placement of bubbles since people have a hard time stacking the bubble debuff so it can be cleaved down rather than consolidating the 3 in one area and cleaving them down.
Absorbing the spheres is not a problem in the groups I’ve been in and I think people absorb them too fast so it stresses the healers.
Therefore, we’re not adding shield, we’re just not making headway when shield is down.
You can’t do all the world quests in all the BfA zones in under two hours.
Yes that is why I suggested she makes more characters if she wants to do them all day.
You are asking for endless world quests and want the rewards reduced so that people can do them endlessly.
Yea, bubbles placement and handling the bubble going to the boss was my guilds issues until we killed her. Not much to say about bubble placement, thats a personal accountability issue. But the bubble traveling only need to be absorbed when she has a shield. We had ppl still building personal stacks and killing the raid eith the burst during the burn phase
That’s also an issue as well.
Nonetheless, since I have to pug, I have to, or hope others do too, to offset poor play.
I can’t imagine bringing an alt into heroic with 20k dps. As soon as a wipe happens, everyone blames lower dps so I’d get crapped on, on an alt with subpar essences giving way to less than optimal damage.
I don’t farm rep on alts and I don’t grind for essences on alts because I did it on my main and it was taxing enough so I have blue or green essences on alts, depending on how long they’ve been at max level.
You actually can.
If you have bad gear and spend lots of time sitting around and thinking about them you might actually take longer. But I did it plenty of times when I was farming rep daily.
But you’re missing the point. Doing the same exact quest a dozen times isn’t enjoyable. Keeping things fresh isn’t a bad thing.
Maybe me saying “would obviously” was the wrong words in my initial post. They won’t obviously do anything as we simply don’t know how they would respond to a system like that.
I just figured they’d do something along those lines, I’m not saying I want them to actually nerf rewards.
But I do believe the world quest system should have more flavor. In my opinion, I don’t believe “well just make more characters” is an acceptable solution to long respawns on world quests after you’ve done your sweep.
when was that, prior to mechagon and nazjatar ?
so you think with endless world quest they would all be different - oh boy…
Nope.
did it a few weeks ago when I was finishing up some things. If you have high damage it isn’t hard to burn quests down.
Just gotta map out your path and get to it.
I still don’t believe you unless you had just cleared out all the world quests within the last 24 hours. Then maybe yes because you would have less world quests to do that what you normally have when someone only does once a day.
I’m saying having them change up is probably more enjoyable than doing the very same quest a dozen times in a day if we’re going off the whole “nothing better to do but world quests all day”
I consider rotating quests to be more enjoyable than swapping to another alt to do the same exact quest, but I understand some people really dislike change and need their set structure.
You’re just lazer focused on what I initially said about the reward structure being slightly changed. Would we even be having this back and forth if I didn’t even mention that part?
Nope we would not be having this discussion at all. That was the part that was unfair. I never consider taking away from one group to benefit another a really good solution for anything.
And that is typically exactly what blizzard does in almost everything they do. Instead of working on a solution that makes both sides happy, they always do this ruin the game for one business so that the other side can be happy.
I mean, you’re more than welcome to not believe me.
Just like others are skeptical about your supposed progression you mentioned above and followed up about having a second account.
My prot paladin has zero issues steamrolling the entirety of world quests in under 2 hours tho due to my 440+ gear from mythic+. The average world quester might not be able to do that, but my experience is not everyone’s experience.
If TL3 shared with all my characters I wouldn’t be stuck on this alt. But I must for the memes.
Your gear and class will play a role in finish time no doubt.
Well see I thought you were talking about your aunt who does nothing but world quests as their end game content.
I was more speaking about me at the end of that, I apologize as I should’ve been more clear. Hard to stay somewhat on task at 5am. I did include that lower gear could take longer. Still I don’t believe it takes much longer even in worse gear. Travel time might be the deciding factor and having flight is obviously a must to do it in a reasonable time frame.
I think for her it’s probably around 3-4 hours of on and off most of the day. But she does a lot of sight seeing and idling around between those quests.
Tanks have typically been able to complete WQ faster than dps classes.
It would take another hour at least for a lot of classes and specs to do with world quest gear.
WQ just reset. Half the rep I can get today from zuldazar alone is about 600 just because half of the maps WQ isnt even for zandalar. Flipping hip hip hooray for this engaging and amazing system.
Actually, if the quests are in Zuldazar but listed as another faction, that means you get rep for Zuldazar and bonus rep for the faction listed.
Enjoy:)