Now imagine, if they’re not even considering offering more than just Darkspear customization, imagine if they went out of their way to fit an allied race into their plans, perhaps introducing a new plot in the next expansion, which should probably already be underway with another race or class. On top of that, they’d have to give the alliance a race, or worse, the easiest way is to make them neutral and playable in both factions. I can’t see Blizzard spending much resources to meet this community demand.
And it matters to a lot of players too, I get that you dont think about lore. But thats one of the reasons i dont play vulpera, i dont like their lore.
Sure their cute, but if i cant vibe with the story behind the race then why would I bother? Thats why i want mogu so bad. I love their lore and story, doubt itl ever happen but 
Im cool with an amani allied race, id just wonder why on earth they would ever join us. Both factions have made them suffer pretty greatly over the years. Especially blood elves.
Maybe alliance trolls and horde -insert race here-? Who knows. Ill just wait to see what midnight ha to offer.
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I mean the story we’re being set up for in Midnight (allegedly) is that the Amani Tribe is really down and out, and Zul’jin’s grandchildren, now in leadership, are much more open to working with outsiders.
I get why some people might dislike it, but personally, I don’t think it’s too much of a stretch to say that a change in leadership+different geopolitical paradigms might shift the attitudes of the Amani.
This isn’t directed at you and it more just a general statement, but I do think it’s a bit odd how half of the crowd insisting that the Amani must necessarily be mortal enemies to the Horde and Alliance in perpetuity are the same ones that decry Horde/Alliance Faction Wars as unrealistic and stale, even when appropriate Lore explanations (ie, Horde resource scarcity) are given, because “bigger threats exist.”
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Well, there’s a conveniently easy, low-effort Allied Race that’s been a high demand Alliance side for ages. One that’d take very little work as far as making new customization goes, and which would be as relevant as the Amani themselves in regards to the Midnight expansion.
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Alot of this work is already done. If amani become playable it wont be because of these threads its because it was already planned and blizz didnt want to reveal it too late. The framwork is here. Theres so much in the amani zone and so much story and lore being grown on.
This is what they would do if they would want to make them playable. These arent tuskar with a small zone and rep grind. Its muliple dungeons and a raid. Ive seen more amani hype then blood elfs and most of us thought midnight would be a elf expac.
The amani arent just villian batted with a small rebel group. We are entering there inner society snd working with them.
They have unique models with some custimization. They took feedback and changed the nose shapes. That i believe is an odd thing to do for a npc race. Its not an odd thing to do for a race they plan on making playable.
I still have hope they will be playable. If not it would be a very odd and bad discussion on blizzs part. Amani have been heavily requested. And for alliance they can finally give them unique models for high elfs or etherals.
Blizz has a chance for an easy win. With work they already added. Its not out of reach or soooo much work. Nothing in titan would need to change. All the lore and story quests are already in midnight.
I mean if last titan is northernd i dont see any big hook of a new class or spec or race in northrend. Its all amani its always been amani. Amani is life
Got my mind on amani and amani on my mind.
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We don’t need another duplicate allied race, Amani should be nothing more than customization options… like most of the duplicate allied and non-allied races.
We need actual unique races.
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I’m on the team that already has them playable. But anyway, players want what they want.
Oh my Sweet summer child…
I don’t get hyped about Blizzard because they have the ability to create races that no one wanted.
“We want High Elves.”
Did you say Call of Cthullhu?
“We want Broken Draenei.”
Did you say LED goats?
“We want Vrykuls.”
Did you say fat humans?
“We want Taunka!”
Did you say Moose?
“We want Ogres!”
Did you say Brown Orcs?"
“We want Sethrak!”
Did you say Cyberpunk?
“We want Vulperas.”
Okay.
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They wont add body types so they have to be an allied race.
Amani have unique body types unlike the reskinned allied races like lightforged, void elfs, maghar orcs, and dark iron dwarfs.
Those races deserved to be a custimization option not amani.
Mind on amani and amani on my mind.
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I don’t agree in the slightest, amani is nothing more than a hunched over zandalari troll… there is no reason at all to have this many allied races or have them as one, we don’t need 3 different trolls because it’s just more the same. 4.5x elves, 3x dwarves, 2x draenei, 2x humans, 2x gnomes, 2x tauren, 2x orcs… now we gotta have 3x trolls? With the only unique races being… Pandas, Dragons, Undead and Worgen, you can throw those undead and worgen in the human pile though if you wanted, leaving 2.
What are you talking about? They look nothing like Zandalari Trolls. Do you need glasses or something?
Breaking: We have to cancel all staples of the Warcraft Franchise because a local forum poster wants to chase novelty.
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Sure
So, making an extreme sarcastic exaggeration because you don’t have a point to make?
I’m not sure I’m a fan of Midnight’s reimagined Amani models honestly.
LOVED the model of Zul’Jin in Heroes of the Storm — Many of us were hoping for something like that.
They looked lean and had a primitive yet powerful vibe to them.
However I find the reimagined models of the Amani Trolls arriving in Midnight, to sort of just look like a hybrid of trolls and orcs 
Later on, discovered I wasn’t the only one who thought such.
- Note to the haters: I mean “Primitive” in a primeval sort of way.
- or at the very least an original & simple meaning – Yet still highly effective & ever-adapting.
Amani hopes
I was hoping the expansion of Midnight would be able to recapture that sort of vibe, along with perhaps some more loa inspirations and more Mesoamerican inspirations to their attire, culture and architecture 
Anyone with half a braincell can obviously see their temples are more civilised than the tents – I always figured that was due to lack of resources, due to the Troll Wars having greatly decimated their numbers, slaughtered handfuls of loa and diminished much of their resources, along with the fallout of both the humans and elves claiming most of the land and taking away access to further resources afterwards — Thus resulting towards the Amani having improvised buildings and such to compensate. 
Further Story Development …
You could likely build on the above 
with a solidification in such lore, with the Ravantusk tribe, the Zandalari Empire and the Horde – offering a hand of revival to their kingdom, that proves uncompromising to the Elves, yet mutually beneficial to their kingdom of Quel’Thalas too. The ultimate benefit of all.
In the expansion, it seems we’re diving more into the Amani Bear Loa – Nalorakk
However later on, I’d love to see us dive more into the others too 
Such as Halazzi the Lynx Loa, Jan’alai the Dragonhawk loa, along with Akil’zon and Akil’darah – The eagle loa 
If the narratives are done right, we’ll see their story set on a note that perceives that there’s far more to come for them – In the future ahead.
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I don’t actually need to make a point. You’re just blind. You either get it, or you don’t.
Please, tell me how these two models are the same, and the only difference is that one is hunched over. Go into detail, I’m begging you.
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=255717/zuljan#modelviewer
https://www.wowhead.com/dressing-room#ft80z0zb89c8mZ808mY808m1808m2808m4808r5808zYU808Mtx808m5808fc808oZ8771
They’re not reimagined at all, they’re basically a 1:1 recreation of the Amani Model that debuted in Patch 2.3.0:
New Model:
(https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=255717/zuljan#modelviewer)
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=150008/daakara#modelviewer
The models themselves are based on lore that predates Patch 2.3.0, see:
Why would you expect anything other than and HD remake of the BC Amani model? Blizzard has made four separate passes over existing Forest Troll areas to ensure they all use it. Blizzard has added new Forest Trolls in another four patches, and they all use it. Blizzard made a custom model for Kazra’jin, and he’s very clearly based on it.
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That is quite an odd response to…
They are incredibly similar, all you really need is to change the color and hunch em over… if you can’t see it, then that’s on you… alas you chose a tiny tiny portion of what I said originally to argue and you make clearly ignorant comments towards because you had no point… I’ll share again what you said… because you know I’m right.
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No, they’re really not similar at all. The entire body shape is different outside of the hunch. Zandalari are much closer to Darkspear in terms of bulk than they are to Amani.
I’m choosing to “argue this” rather than address anything else, because this is the point that you came into the thread to make.
What else is there to say? I’m sorry for making fun of you with the “Breaking” portion of my response? No thanks. If you don’t want to have people poke fun at you, don’t barge into threads saying stupid things. 
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Corrected it for you, as this is your opinion on it and I don’t agree with you. Okay?
This isn’t really a matter of opinion. In terms of mass, they’re just incomparable. But it’s very notable that you’ve tried getting away from this twice. First, by trying to reframe the discussion on a sarcastic comment, now by trying to do the “That’s just your opinion, mannnnn” routine.
It’s almost like you can’t actually do this ^
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It is, whether you wanna hear it or not.
When you wanna discuss the meat of my original post, we can go further into my opinion on the detailed differences, this is the least important part of the post, I just don’t care to argue with someone else’s opinion.
Edit: No, I haven’t been reading your full posts because you didn’t address my full post… like you, I am picking and choosing what to discuss.
It would be cool if they just rolled Amani trolls into Darkspear by offering hair and skin features as well as an alternate body type that is a bit more muscular, kinda like how Dracthyr have slight body size options and how orcs can be hunched or straight.
I’d also be fine with them just as their own allied race with their own heritage armor set and racials. But whatever.
I just don’t think the new customization for trolls will be sufficient. It will be great for Darkspear, but not for Amani if that makes sense.
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No, you went out of your way to phrase this in such a way as to imply objectivity. You’re just trying to run from that now.
I’ve already asked you to do that multiple times.
“You didn’t take the bait when I attempted to reframe the discussion around a sarcastic comment you made at my expense, so uh… I’m just NOT reading what you’re writing!”
Wow, you sure showed me. This totally isn’t a transparent, petty attempt to continue kicking the can down the road and “own someone on the internet.”
If your next post isn’t this, don’t bother @ing me.
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