people seem to mix this up
for only right now solo is blitz , blitz is supposed to be solo q rbgs downsized because rbgs is dead. Take people over 30 min to get one rbg match in if you want to find people who want to push and try on your own.
random bgs are literally just random maps picked .
we do not know if they will keep unrated blitz as an option for solo players once the rated version goes live.
solo player can still do randoms if they want , did not know you are the bg police.
Just curious, what response did you parrot to defend premades before blitz came out? Blitz is pretty new, are current gripes against premading now no longer acceptable? Your comparisons are people that want solo against people that donât care. It should be people that want solo against people that donât want solo, unless youâre implying that ârandomâ battlegrounds arenât in fact random but filled with parties abusing the party limit system. Thereâs nothing random about it other than the map.
That random battlegrounds are meant to be enjoyed with friends, and people who donât make friends on WoW generally donât last very long
I also donât premade all the time, Iâll duo q very frequently, even now
I send a message out in our discord we use âBgs soon 
â and anyone who joins joins
Yeah those are much weaker arguments, good thing blitz came around.
Still, you compared people that want solo games against people that donât (or shouldnât?) care that their random battlegrounds are filled with friends abusing the system. Kind of lazy to frame the argument that way when you know thatâs not the complaint people have against premades. We want solo randoms against all solo randoms or a separate queue for people in groups. But you know that right? Thatâs why you were purposely misleading? Or do you actually think the average person queueing for randoms should enjoy or not care that their randoms are filled with teams on comms sweating in unraked pugs?
Glad you poked those massive holes in my arguement that MMO-RPGâs with group based formats, where you are HEAVILY encouraged to play with friends you enjoy talking to and are a similar skill level should be played, with infact, friends
Donât play an MMO if you want solo content. Itâs a multiplayer roleplaying game
Youâre going to a steakhouse mad they have meat
You have blitz now
The average bger plays with friends
and Iâm in a group at the moment, and weâre not in coms
https://imgur.com/a/mbYURDk
Why is it so hard to get an honest response from anyone in the premade community?? You made the trash argument, not me. You were purposely disingenuous on purpose, not me. The fact that you have to do these things says everything, but again you already know that.
See now youâre making a totally different argument about premades. Now people that might want to play solo or even expect solo content when they queue randoms should NOT even play the MMO in the first place!! Itâs your abusive communities or the highway 
This is a new one! Iâll be around when literally ANY of you delusional clowns are ready to have a real conversation about premades. Until then another premader has proven themselves completely anti-social and out of touch with reality. Suck it up and enjoy premades people or DONâT PLAY THE GAME!
Im not in a premade community
premade communities invite anyone just because they want bodies
My discord is more of a club
5 man groups arenât abusing anything. If youâre upset (like most people) about groups of 6 or more, those are called queue syncers and operate in epics, not randoms (10-15mans)
Important not to get the two confused
If youâre really complaining about 5 mans then i have bad news for you that this is an mmo and blizzard is happy to allow 5 people to queue together
Yet here you are defending premades with the logic of a toddler thatâs never stepped in the sun.
By the way, the distinction is people that want to play against premades (no one) & people that want to play solos against other solos. Ready to discuss when youâre ready.
Queue syncers ARE 5 man groups. And when a 10 man BG is 50% premade, guess what? Thatâs a premade. Blizzard needs to make a clear distinction between solo play and group play. If one team is all randoms queueing with the expectation of randomness, they shouldnât have to face any group. I barely play randoms but to pretend like this isnât an obvious balance issue is just disingenuous when we all know it is. It absolutely destroys the balance and deters new players but apparently they shouldnât be playing at all. Make 2 seperate playgrounds, one for people in parties, one for people not in parties.
No and youâre wrong
Queue syncing implies multiple groups timing their queue and dropping pops to coordinate getting into the same match because the queue system implemented by blizzard does not allow 6 or more âfriendsâ to queue together
5mans (all in one group) are not âsyncingâ to bypass queueing limits because they are within the 5 man party size allowed by blizzard (and queueing bgs with 2-5 people has literally been a thing since like Burning Crusade)
Syncers are the ones abusing and bypassing queueing limits (6-40mans) and the ones you should be campaigning against. I donât think anyone in this thread supports queue syncers
You dont see any irony between your first comment and the rest?
No, I understand what youâre saying. Queue syncers are just multiple 5 man groups but theyâre still 5 mans. I was saying 5 mans and queue syncers are of the same ilk.
The point Iâm trying to make is groups shouldnât be mixing with solo players AT ALL. I understand that blizzard allows for it but itâs an obvious balance issue. I think anything above 2 players should be itâs own queue and anything under should be another. But to act like a 5 man premade in a 10 man BG isnât an issue is naive. Epic BGS only need 50% fill with their premades to ruin the balance so Iâm not sure where you were going with that one. Blizzard need to readdress their PVP balance.
anyone ever baked bread
Stole the quote! You are working in the right direction 100%. Tough crowd entrenched in the current system is not easy to work with.
Reality time, there is no limit on Premade teams.
50%+ groups on one side of matches has led to some very obvious visual advantages vs ungrouped teams. Those fingers pointing towards Epic groups at 50% too.
Blitz does not have to dumpster Randoms, scary thought.
Looking at what Blitz does well in terms of balancing would also work in randoms.
You ever bake someone elses bread
Nothing ironic. Do you see the irony with your original post and what youâre now defending?
âClick a button, only face 5 mansâ
This is exactly what Iâm arguing for! Which youâre also somehow now arguing against. Thatâs irony. This would remove those pesky solo players that you detest into their own queues where they donât have to face people in groups. Or would you rather they NOT PLAY AT ALL?
splitting queues does this on off hours 
2-5 players have been queueing together since 2005. This is not a problem
No one is losing to jim and timothy the lfr raiders with honor gear who have no keybinds but decide to queue a warsong together. According to you theyâre a premade and jim and timothy who do a combined less damage than a healer should not be allowed to queue random bgs like they have been for more than a decade
Youre not losing to âpremadesâ of casual dads. No one is losing to jims and timothies. Your problem is with skilled and geared players, and those players have entirely every right to play randoms and theyâve been in your bgs since the dawn of time
You have blitz now so unskilled solo players will have comfortable low ratings where the mean arena players canât drop to
Tldr queue syncers are lame, 2-5 man premades are fine, pick a fight with people like inemia if you donât like premade communities. Tidepods is not the enemy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A
EDIT: let me explain this actually i dont think you understand