Mage has got to be the worst pvp class in the game right now. Might even be Pve too. The damage isn’t there, and the survivability is nill when everything else can port and jump to you.
In classic blink removes stuns, we should get that back.
1000% … its not like all the melee don’t have several gap closer anyway.
We do damage only during RoP and that is unacceptable. Its way too easy to counter and we have to stand still to get that damage buff, which is against Mage principals since dawn of Classic. Mages were about kiting, CC and skill shots. No heals.
Remember when Holinka said mage ability to avoid damage is same as it’s heal?
And then melee gap closers became the thing.
I honestly don’t think these guys at blizz even sample their own product l. They don’t even play. It’s the only explanation.
fire is great at not doing damage and surviving if you do it right you can die slower
Holinka said that Blink is like a heal. He got smeared for it. Then in Legion he added Cauterizing Blink for us.
Atleast on Battlegrounds Frost can be really fun to play. Instantly spamming your 30k ice lances, slowing down to full stop with raytracing beam, aoe freeze aura is fun to use, 22s immunity to stun with less than 60s cooldown and blast wave is actually useful there.
And i just love spellstealing freedom from paladins. Farmed almost full honor gear as frost. Tried arcane, but there’s just too much casting and you need your charges and mana.
and yet, there is not a single mage on the top 350 ranked bg players… Mage is by far the worst DPS class right now
Yea this is why I chose lock over mage this expac. At least the lock can absorb the beating. I find mage way more fun but there’s no way I was going to survive the melee onslaught this expac. They are like glue, you can’t peel them to save their life, literally lol.
Even with my lock I fear and it breaks instant and he’s right back on me with a charge, shadowstep, dash etc. fear again with coil and it’s my only chance. Once it’s broken they’re again right back on me instantly. Affliction helps because I don’t have many hard casts but still I gotta out live them basically.
Mages complaint about this is a joke I’ve watched most mages that are high rated easily get away from meele you need more practice bud
As of the time of this post, there are three mages in the top 10 in 3s.
Though their representation in RBGs is pretty low; only 1 Mage in the top 200.
Probably not due to lack of survivability , but lack of meaningful damage and burst.
I dont see many Mages in regular BGs either.
I honestly want to say that its not exactly a prob with mages rn, its that most of the classes that specialize in killing mages, have a lot more mobility now. Way more, like its crazy. Even with double shimmer, displacement, alter time, blast wave, double nova and ice nova, classes are still sniffing at your neck every second of a fight, and its kinda uncomfortable.
Every single match is double melee. I just get trained, however i am not very good on my mage but dam i cant get em off me. DH\Unholy dk\Warrior every single game!
I have the same problem on my MM hunter at 1950, however the interrupts just make it aids can barely get any damage off.
I feel like mage needs blazing speed back from MOP and that cheat death thing
3 mages in the top 10, all 3 of those mages are in RMP where the mage is a poly bot for the gross damage rogues do. In fact in the history of RMP id say 90% of the time the mage was there as a CC bot.
How many times has RMP won the AWC? Whaaaat? Rarely? No way. They lose to half competent turbo cleave all the time. People who have mained mage their entire pro-arena career have swapped off mage…that must mean they are really really good.
Used to be that with Frost armor, when Melee would hit us, they gained a massive snare, so getting away was possible. No more of that, and Now they have more gap closers than we have gap openers, even with two freeking blinks.
5 blinks****
there’s like two mages in top100 3x3
Count the amount of warlocks to mages in the top 500. Its a huge proportional difference
Warlocks healing and defensives are huge, you dont need the mobility of a mage
all mage mobility is 2 blinks and rewind time. Warrior has two charges and leap (and you can’t blink out of spear). Demon hunter is simply inescapable, rogues will sit on as much as they want, monks are even worse