Mage Tower *IS* overtuned

Keep being proud of being below average. It will serve you well

I don’t know what your beef is with me, considering I’ve been nothing but respectful to you, but I hope you have a good night :heart:

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There’s 1 guardian druid done for every 1000 warrior who’s done it. All i’m seeing are monks and warriors with MT gear.

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Good for you but the other 99% believe its overtuned and just undoable

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People who say that are probably personally frustrated with it (perhaps for good reason with some specs).

That said, from what people have been saying, some of the specs challenges are literally designed for the 1% of players (their skill and mentality about stuff like this), while other specs sound more forgiving.

But I would say that it sounds like all of the challenges are not designed for the majority of the playerbase to be able to complete, especially within the 1 week timegating. I know the event will be back in the future, but that’s not a great way to convince people to resubscribe.

Edit: meant to put 2 weeks (morning coffee hasn’t kicked in yet)

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Two weeks.

It’s not for the 1%, it actually scales your gear down to a specific level, so its impossible for the top 1% of players that are full mythic to get an advantage. I’ll agree that having to equip socketed gear from old raids for extra stats is a bit extreme, but saying that its for the top 1% is wrong. You do need to be able to use your entire kit for the challenge as well as practice the fights. It took me 50 tries for the healing one, and I remember when it came out in Legion it took me over 100 for the tank when it came out.

Right, morning coffee hasn’t kicked in yet. That’s better but still sucks for people who don’t have that much time to play. Particularly if you want to get that book mount.

What if I don’t care about the Mage Tower? Why should I not subscribe because something I don’t even care about isn’t designed for me?

Word Police here. “Fares”, as in “Fare you well”. Not “Fairs”.

Hilarious to see ele shaman and fury warriors come out of the woodworks to defend MT difficulty. Please open your eyes and take a look around at reality where the challenges are substantially more difficult for other specs/classes.

I agree with the sentiment that blizz really needed a win with the more casual crowd and it was a miss. There are some changes they could make to get some easy wins, will be interesting to see what they choose to do over the next week

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The Blizz testing is ABSOLUTE garbage.

The only they are ever good at is frustrating the players, and harassing employees.

Like why do pro streamers with tons of gold themselves need SEVERAL tries to unlock their main spec Mage Tower reward? It is so much harder than what it was in Legion.

I wish you guys would stop just making up BS as if it’s a fact. Nobody knows except blizzard the actual percentage of people who have done it, or who will do it within these 2 weeks and I’d be willing to bet it’s a whole lot higher than “1%”

It’s pretty sad the mindset of some of you that you’re banking on your skill being so high that if you can’t do it than clearly it means 99% of people can’t do it and using it as an excuse to feel better about it.

I mean say 20% end up getting it done by the end of the 2 weeks. Suck it up that you weren’t in the 80+ Percentile of players and just get better

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Majority wants it NERF , dont release content majority cant do and hype it up. ALot will unsub unless its NERF as its content people want. These posts wouldnt be here otherewise

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Yea, even if say 40% percent can get it done, and 60% are skill capped, it’s not even real character progression. I’m sure blizzard realizes it if some of y’all don’t, more than half the subs aren’t ksm or mythic raiders. Some people farm mounts and mogs all day, but they pay for the development of the big raids etc that everyone also enjoys. Most of those people have accepted that they won’t get a rank 1 pvp mount, or a mythic end boss mount, or even a ksm mount or title. Those people still want access to some of the nicer “looking” armor and mounts. If elites want to kick the can down the road and tell average players to suck it up, and devs side with the idea that it should be near unobtainable by a large part of the base unless they farm special chromie sets with lower level people from BC and then go buy crazy overpriced consumables and gems/enchants to even have a “skill challenged” chance, but is it skill challenged if most of the vids and people say they have to use a special set with other items to make it possible at even their high level of play. I could see how subs will continue to go down until at some point this game won’t get new content and they just merge servers and maintain it as it is. The whole exclusivity thing bugs me. The game has hundreds and hundreds of sets. On a daily basis I see so many different looking players. Do elite players need average players to have hand me down sets, etc for them to feel good about themselves? They already have skill barrier gear and mounts and titles etc, let’s make it so everything that is really classy is unobtainable for half the game, I’m sure they won’t mind getting the scraps of past expansions. I’m sure I won’t change anybody’s mind in forums, most people are decided to the point that nothing changes their minds these days, and to those people I bid you a good day. :v:

The thing is that for some specs, the difficult is not even close to what it was in Legion.
Legion mage tower was way easier than this.

It was still a hard challenge back then, but it felt reasonable.

For some specs 9.1.5 mage tower is just way off. Holy priest challenge is extremely hard where RNG and perfect gameplay is needed to just go thorugh phase 1. But other specs like Hpal or Mw Monk can do phase 1 way easier than hpriest.

And I played when MT was released on Legion. I was able to get to phase 2 way more times, here in 9.1.5 I can’t even pass 4th wave of adds in phase 1 and there are 5 waves.

Get good.

Blows my mind that so many people feel they are entitled to a cosmetic reward that comes from a semi challenging piece of content.

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Sure is nice having to take out a loan to afford consumables for overtuned towers.

And yes, I mean overtuned and not “too difficult”, the only reason I have not gotten blood dk or brew monk done is because I refuse to blow 5k gold per attempt.

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The reason this game is dying is they listen to the “Get good” people who live on the forums to troll cause of lack of self esteem.

You have 99% of people who did it in legion saying its overtuned.

Not only that this content was advertised at time walking players which is the most causal content in the game on the level of LFR.

The entire reason for NOT having the original weapons as the reward and having recolored normal more tier sets being recycled for the 3rd time was because it was implied it would be accessible for the entire playerbase NOT to the “lol get good” pathetic troll crowd and pro gamers.

I did this on 3 toons during the ToS patch all tanks. This is at least double that difficulty. Even day 1 in legion you had a legendary and an artifact weapon that was powered up through the entire first tier of raiding. This did a ton of dps and provided TONS of untility.

This event is now more exclusive than mythic raiding in terms of who can actually complete it.
If thats what they intended they straight scammed causal players as this was marketed as - come do this redo of some old recycled content for 2 weeks while you wait for 9.2.

Blizzard listens to the VERY vocal VERY SMALL minority of complainers on the forums who want everything to be punishing so they have something to feel good about.
Give it to them. Just this shouldn’t of been it. They keep listening to these people and keep losing players…hmmmm. Listen to the “lol get good” people who are the most toxic in the community and that’s all you will have playing.

Anyone who has done the tank or healing ones and is trying to tell people they are the same as before is a straight fraud.

Last point - I am fine with this being tough but for timewalking it should of been AT MOST how it was at the end of legion. Still tough for most players but high end heroic/ low end mythic skilled raiders mostly can get it.

Right now this is tuned for pro-gamers and the elite (some of the most toixc) 1% of the 1%.

You keep scamming the casuals like this to please the toxic forum trolls and its why you are running players out of this game as fast as you possibly can.

I spent 600k on old gear/enchants/gems and still I pushed phase 2 a few times on the blood dk.
I did it in 5 attempts in legion in ToS heroic gear.
The monk tank one was much harder in Legion.

If every challenge was the fury warrior challenge half the people who play would have the sets and no one would care.

Some of these are total face roll some of them are absolutely insane.

To anyone who ISN’T just a miserable troll- try the tank and heals ones before you tell everyone how easy it is.

Timewalking content shouldn’t take pro-gamers 100+ pulls to complete when they did it before as well and already knew the fight.

The tank one was buffed 3x since the PTR and totally untested. They tripled the health and damage of some of the things and made the mechanics MUCH more punishing than even the original plus you have classes that truly are broken by not having borrowed power.

This was an F- effort by Blizz. Like this shows they truly just DO NOT CARE about their customers at all. They actually encourage toxicity as you see how many fury warrior are on the forums trying to “lol get good” at everyone with overtuned challenges.

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Funny thing about this… i think they Buffed some fights instead of nerfing, since yesterday. Cause Imp spawns on Agatha were around 45 seconds to a Minute for her “Children” and the ones that heal/buff her. Now i’m seeing them about every 25-30 seconds, which isn’t giving me much time to deal her. Mind you i’m doing about 900 DPS overall. I’m getting curb kicked every pull now instead of pushing her to 30%. Don’t know if it’s a Bug or as blizzard would say. “Working as Intended” And yes i tested this multiple times at the expense of my Gold :frowning:

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