And what, you think you’re special? I did every tank back in legion, most of them before 7.3 was out. As well as every DK spec, and it is not comparable, unless you’re just as bad as you were then. Clearly you did fail English, otherwise you’d understand the irony of your tantrum, but still think you can call others petulant.
The point is, you haven’t been able to do it, so until you do, nothing your say holds any weight.
I’m not presuming anything, you’ve already demonstrated exactly this.
I guess that makes two of us.
Git gud isn’t an insult. I’ve already explained what this means;
Yikes.
See, but unlike you, he beat his mage tower.
How would you know? The date for your Legion achievement is over a year after the mage tower was released. Sure, it was super easy by that point.
I finished one the first week it was released in Legion, and it was definitely took me longer than it did now. I’ve finished four so far (fury, arms, ele, shadow) and each one took me 1-2 hours with basic SL gear.
Yes, the mage tower is much harder than Legion’s version if you didn’t do it on release. Literally only one person finished the prot paladin challenge the first time.
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i already have it?
why shouldnt other people be able to get it as well?
How have I demonstrated it? I didn’t give up and completed my challenge despite having a hard time with it. You’re somehow saying that I haven’t?
ANd it is when you’re just throwing it out there. Just because its not an insult to you doesn’t mean it isn’t to others who are experiencing feelings. Its all relative.
And lmfao yikes. I did a whole three paragraph explanation previously in this EXACT post and its like “Oh lmfao that doesn’t exist I can’t read”.
I’m aware, I cleared it. I actually have the time at the moment to go grind my face against it until I have it figured out. Most people don’t have that kind of time. 30 pulls isn’t an insignificant amount of time considering this is only available for 2 weeks. Yet again, there would be no issue if this were sticking around for a longer time.
On this character, which I didn’t main for the expansion. Even then, it’s not like you get an achievement for entering it. There’s literally no way to know when someone first tried it unless they beat it in the early days. Completed it on my DH for the first time on October 1st, 2017. But try again.
I mean, you’re not very good at things, are you? Sometimes its SO much smarter to just sit on your hands
Resto and holy healing challenges are blatantly overtuned specifically the arcane caster adds. There is also the matter of fight length due to oversized boss health pools. People claim Agatha is the easiest and they are probably right but the only reason for that is that her soft enrage is toothless so it doesn’t matter that her health pool is massive and the fight takes 10 minutes when it should take 5-6. Sigryn was a mechanics check but in the current mage tower its a dps check because the 6:30 hard enrage that basically never came into play in legion fits the current boss health. Tank challenge is needlessly long now.
People can do crazy things if they put their mind to it. But the mage tower in its current state is not well tuned, and it becomes a game of optimizing gear and consumables rather then a fun test of pve prowess. Just because it can be done doesn’t me that its in a good state.
based on what metric?
Yeah… That’s wow in a nutshell. like since the beginning.
Compared to release mage tower in legion. I even checked back to some legion kills and the legion kills are much shorter. We’re hard locked to below par ilvl and the only recourse is to build a set you will only use in the mage tower, its not a great design in that regard. Also I’m pretty sure the rest of the post you didn’t quote gave out specific examples of where the tuning is especially bad.
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Nerfs no, BALANCES? YES.
Some classes need to go out of their way to find special gem slot gear to completely rework their stats because out current kits are broken in MT. For this being a one week event it doesnt make sense to expect the majority of players to collect old gear and rework everything. It’s broken for like half of all specs. And some classes have a huge advantage, like Monks seem to be recommended for both the tank and healer challenge, but what if you dont even have a monk?? It’s just not balanced and it SHOULD be scaled to us, scaled to our average ilvl, and we should be able to use borrowed powers because that’s how most of our kits are currently setup. For example, some of us don’t require crit on gear because our legendary gives crit(boomkin), but now in MT we dont get what our kit is built around.
If mage tower was permanent for SL then I don’t think people would be this irritated with it. But it’s extremely limited and half baked, so we are limited in options and time. There’s one specific challenge I don’t have a single level 60 for (I have 4 60s). So that means I have to get on my level 50 priest that I haven’t played in years to fill that slot, and it’s not even the recommend class for that challenge.
Scale MT to current content, if you can scale legion tw M+, then you can scale MT. That would fix so many of these issues. If you’re not gonna fully scale it, then have MT active year round, because a one week event is really fking stupid for such a unbalanced event.
All it gives is xmog and a mount, so there’s no reason to have it be so limited in every possible way. They lifted all the time limitations on Torghast and now people seem to be having way more fun with it, and torghast is way more rewarding! Same for the horrific visions, you can still go back and do those to get the xmogs and mounts. But at least with Torghast and Visions there’s progression system built it, by spending tower knowledge, you can at least progress at your own pace in a rewarding way.
MT is half baked and doesn’t make sense compared to all similar instanced challenges. And I’m sure when the employees aren’t striking anymore and they kick out the terrible CEO they will get around to fixing it.
Give us MORE content, don’t limit and restrict it. Or just keep bleeding subs.
this isn’t phrased in a way that means anything. The adds have too much health? the adds do too much damage, the adds can’t be interupted?
Look, i haven’t tackled it yet, but if everyone completing the challenge took
then you could argue its overtuned. but that requires more than just how long it takes you.
the guardian tank challenge on average is about 5 minutes…
This hard, does not = tuning bad.
Ok, don’t nerf it, but put a vendor outside with the gear, gems, enchants, etc needed for the cost of 1 silver
Is imposible to do it without perfect gear and consumables
Just want templates so I know I’m not gimping myself by running the gear I regularly use.
For holy and resto shaman the arcane adds do like 200% more damage on their arcane blast compared to other healing challenges. For agatha I don’t think the fight needs to be nerfed in its current state though it would be better if they cut her health and buffed her damage so the fight was more of a dps race like it once was rather then a slog like it is now. Like I don’t think every fight needs to be nerfed and the ones that I do think should be should be nerfed in specific points where the fight simply does not jive well compared to legion.
One thing that is common among most of the problem fights is that boss health is probably too high, for example sigryn enrage being a common issue rather then people getting one shot like its supposed to be.
Another weird one in general for the healing challenge is we are scaled with less health then the npc party while in legion it was the opposite.
Oh boy another “git gud” thread.
Listen. Yes, it is doable on every spec. BUT, a good handful of the the 36 specs have a harder time than other specs in the same challenge due to tuning issues and have to resort to farming old content for gear in order to survive. We aren’t in Legion anymore, our survivabilty/power is not where it used to be. A lot of class changes happened in the past 5 years. Therefore, the encounters need to be tuned accordingly otherwise more frustration will occur.
EDIT: in italics
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“Elitists” or “git gud” were the crowd that tried so hard to not let the mage tower return always bombing the posts etc . Now its out they are trying to tell everyone to “git gud” .Yes MT isnt impossible yes its doable but only by 1%ers on few specs . And they will always keep this rant up so 
Read the room… this isn’t what players want.
I was 36/36 in Legion, you have to be in denial to actually think this is tuned.
I have completed a few of the TW as well, it is doable. It just shouldn’t be as difficult as it is.
The only people saying it should stay as is: neckbeards that can’t stand casuals getting anything and the people that haven’t even tried it yet…
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