The shadowflame patch is better. Lariat is so S1. This is well documented now. It is okay to not have known this. Just change your mind based on new info.
your anecdote is not representative of the data. Fire is busted with Spriest+aug with a bear tank that pulls big. The nerfs didnt change that.
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Are you using lust on cd or after building up stacks with fire starter
Got it⌠so we need to balance a spec based on the perfect group comp.
Yep, makes perfect sense.
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Specs are balanced around top performance.
The number 100 Mage in the 411-413 Bracket for Kazzara is doing 62,386 DPS.
The number 100 Warlock in the 402-404 (lowest it goes) Bracket is doing 46,407 DPS.
I know this isnât exactly bullet proof stuff here but if youâre doing better on the 398 Warlock then it means youâre playing your Mage worse than your Warlock. That is all there really is to it.
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Without logs im almsot guranteeing its not managing charred remains and not doing proper skb windows
Yeah.
In fact you can check out OPâs Fire Mage talents, they have 2 loadouts and neither of them actually talent into SKB. One goes into Deep Impact and the other goes into Hypothermia.
That makes me cringe irl. Has to be trolling at that point.
This is why we canât have nice things. People who got outplayed jump on forums, twitter, streamer sites etc and cry about how X class is strong. Frost Mage is certainly strong, and it should be considering the 8 rotational buttons needed for AoE. Frost is considerably more difficult to pull off those numbers than virtually any other class, and as such it should be strong (there are however still classes stronger with half the buttons to push). He used a total of 11 dps abilities, to your 7 (and this doesnât include cooldowns or utility).
I know the game is no longer entirely designed that way, but that makes sense to me. Harder to play should mean more damage output. Frost is by no means the top AoE dps, and it is not the top ST dps. Unnecessarily nerfing Frost again because of vocal players who got beaten is just going to cause players to leave, because for the first time in several expansions Frost is not only dealing some OK damage but is actually fun to play.
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If you honestly think this is the first time in a few expansions that frost has been viable you dont know what you are talking about.
Frost has had a couple patchs in DF and SL where it was the strongest spec
Read what you quoted again. I know reading is difficult, and understanding words makes it harder to be contrary, but try. If not for me, for your tutor and your parents. Theyâve been trying so hard to bring you up to a basic comprehension level. The bit you should focus on, is where it says ânot onlyâ. This implies that itâs just point A that needs to be considered, but B as well.
Itâs pretty safe to say that regardless of any output Frost has had (when considering damage I donât count 8.3 or SL because they are just awful and should be stricken from the records), it has ranged from âehâ to âhot garbageâ from a gameplay perspective since everyoneâs favourite expansion - MoP.
Now, we get not only the output but also (note that word, âalsoâ as it implies that we are speaking about two factors) get gameplay that is actually good. Combine both of these, and you have many happy Frost Mages. Remove one of these, and the spec becomes significantly less desirable for many.
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Please note that your âfeelingsâ on the game play do not matter. Frost was viable both in DF and SL. Just because the gameplay was less desirable then does not change the fact that it wasnât viable.
So when you say something clueless like âthis is the first time frost is viableâ it makes you look really bad. Granted a lot of your posts look like that so I should be used to it by now.
I do find it funny you try to imply Iâm the uneducated one yet you continue to post inaccurate information.
When was I ever on top? Lol. Even season 1 feral was not S tier because of crap single target. You are defending a class that is ranged, in a ranged meta, that is S+ tier lol. Enjoy it while it lasts and keep your fists up on the forums, you are doing great work!
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I just want to say that the mage changes for frost has increased my survivability in all encounters by 70 percent. Occasionally I do get 1 shotted by a dungeon mechanic, but it is not like before when I would die more than 6 times in a dungeon. The talented ice block is a godsend. Cold snap renewing the cd also helps. I find myself using both spells alot. That with mass barrier and my own shield, I survive to actually to do more damage. Also use shifting power with icy floes to not only reduce cdâs but to add an extra moving aoe.
For yâall that donât know Snozy Is known as a forum troll he likes to argue and heâs never wrong. All you got to do is go look at some of his past post and you will see.
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To his credit he is right most often and recently has toned down his replies to those whom he disagrees. I have it on inside info that his granddaughter bought him a kitten.
Yes and no. When he can present straight facts or manipulate logs data, sure, though itâs unclear how much of that is from within or ripped straight from AT. On the other hand, they have a tendency to be overly argumentative and present opinion as fact just as often.
I suspect that is partly because a lot of frequent forum users have chosen to ignore and/or stop replying to his posts. It holds up the old saying of âit takes two to argueâ.
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Well well well. If it isnât another nerf planned for broken mages. And here I was told I had no idea what I was talking about. Trolls will be trolls.