M+0 Needs to be in the random Queue

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Nah, you go make yours and leave me alone. I will wait until Blizzard decides to do a M0 queue. I have no desire to do M+.

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142

Highly unlikely your dream will come true.

Normal and HC is core of World of Warcraft.

This is enough to complete the game and and content. M0 is to challenge your self. You are not going to get random ques for something you need to earn to achieve.

HC or My raids do not have this.

Rated PVP does not have this.

M0 will not have this. Again, this is to challenge yourself. The code required to process this is daunting. Imagine i get qued with a boosted +5 while i am doing a 2 and he cant even press W?

Game will need to hire staff just for the copium in the GD.

143

Ok.
10char

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everyone always whines in game and here pugging keys i don’t see the problem with it being queable and considering the majority of people pug keys i don’t see the problem, using group finder obviously fails to.

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Yes but make the ilvl req to get in 365 just to piss everyone off

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So people who refuse to use the premade finder for M0 will magically use it for M+? :thinking:

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Dude has not had a single KSM ever.

This will be his first if he pulls it off.

If he thinks 349 isn’t already over geared for M0s, he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

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148

How is this different than what we already have? Youd have to make a group manually for the +2 anyway.

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How about up difficulty of Heroic to M0 difficulty and then remove M0.

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150

Me too, M0s are doable at sub 330. Easily, too.

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On the conditions
A) No LFG buff
B) Screams for nerfs result in a 3 day ban
C) iLevel requirement is slightly above heroic loot drop

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Absolutely m0 should be in dungeon finder, because there are currently too many barriers between heroic dungeon finder and premade m0:

  1. the premade groups interface is trash
  2. it’s annoying to actively find groups/players rather than queue and do other things (especially as a dps)
  3. it’s annoying having to physically travel to the dungeon entrance
  4. lockout semi-prevents you from playing the dungeon more to learn it better
  5. m0 has extra mechanics to be learned, and people need an easier way to learn the non-dragonflight M+ dungeons
  6. m0 is scaled higher than heroic (duh)
  7. m0 does not have the 15% LFG buff, making it effectively an extra tier of difficulty higher

of course, there shouldn’t be too big of a barrier between m0 and m+2 either or they’ve only delayed the point at which people stop playing by a few days

there are similar barriers between LFR and normal raiding which also need to be looked at

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I agree. M0 is in a funky spot when it comes to listing for groups. I find it takes so long to get a M0 group together, that my ILvL actually goes up more by spamming heroic—because queues are fast you can get many 359 pieces in the time you might get one 372 piece. I’ve switched to doing this on all my alts–>heroic–>crafted–>raid finder… then eventually I will do one M0 to get a keystone and then never do M0 again.

It’s an inefficient use of time to gear

The fact that M0 has it’s own tab in the group finder makes things weird too, and I have found I have much better success listing my 0s under Mythic +, and just putting “0” in the title

…
Take the math for example:

Starting at 15 slots at 343 gear.
Item level: 343

Then, you get one 372 piece from a M0.
Item level: 344.9

Or, instead of the M0, you got three 359 pieces from heroic:
Item level: 346.2

M0 is a terrible use of time to gear because of this. Heroics

  1. queue faster,
  2. each boss can be looted
  3. The actual dungeon itself is cleared faster.

You should really just do heroics, one M0, then straight to M+. There is no reason to linger at M0. Waste of time.

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154

The thing that gets me is people are straight up skipping heroic for m0 to gear.
Heroic is beyond pointless.

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YOu will never be above me son. I slay dragons.

What you do in 6 months, i do in 2 weeks. I dont need a guild. I am the lion - solo army.

ttps ://raider.io/characters/us/kilrogg/Thelion

Enjoy this L.

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Keys fails 50% lmao it is a coin toss.

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157

I think being outside the random queue is exactly what makes m0 a stepping stone into m+. It introduces people to the experience of making or joining groups on their own, but with less pressure in the content itself than m+.

If m0 were in the random queue it would just be a second version of heroic with a higher ilvl threshold to queue.

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158

I’m not telling you how to play. I made a suggestion. Come off it.

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159

Guess you ignored the “ratings bracket” part and “have both option” so you can avoid that scenario but ok let’s be passive aggressive instead.

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Bridge the gap between heroic and m+

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