M+ this week, where are all the healers?

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Ah yes, Ill just link my 25 man heroic LK achievement.

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I’m not cheesed at them. I just have minimal respect for them. I find their hypocrisy annoying but I know “they” aren’t a hivemind anymore than any other role is. Good healers know that they should be doing something every GCD same as tanks and DPS are otherwise expected to. Good healers know that doing damage is proactive healing because the sooner the mobs die, the less actual healing needs done (which also costs way more mana to recover HP than spent killing the enemy before it took your HP).

Like I’m not even remotely interested in doing the digging, but I’d wager a good number of people saying “not healing this week” has, at some point, also been against tanks/DPS having as strong self sustain as they do and/or that healers should be “healing more” and not required to DPS.

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True sir, thanks for saying this.

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That’s a bit of a stretch, don’t you think? Most of the healers in this thread seem to be saying they’re going to either take a break outright or just get one key in for the week and call it good. I know I am. No asking for high end rewards for low end difficulty and no nerfs needed lmao. It’s nice to have a week once in a while where I can take a bit of a break.

Not me! I’m all for more sustain for dps and tanks. That does nothing but help me out. Same with doing damage. ABC is what separates the mediocre healers from the good ones.


I’m still taking a break though. Sadly not too much of one as I have 2 dedicated m+ groups that I heal for D:

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You are welcome I guess?

Healing is in a weird spot. It is the only role where the better you are, the less you need. Raid groups get to points where they cut a healer or have a healer go DPS when stuff gets more and more onto farm content levels. The better you play in mythic+, the less you “need” a pure healbot healer up until you start doing super tippy top levels of keys where it then becomes more needed to not only avoid every bit of avoidable damage but you also “need” your healer and group to be coordinated to burst down key mobs and/or using their utility instead of just trying to brute force raw healing done.

Basically, the role of the “healbot” just doesn’t exist and has not purely existed for years and years now. It isn’t coming back either. In fact, I would argue back in the “good old days” it never truly existed. Classes/specs were far more niched and yes it was far more common to just push your few healing buttons, but the onus has still always been on the DPS and tanks to do more too and as the years have gone by, to really raise the stakes and radically require them to do more and more and for their playstyles to be more and more active and complicated and while healers have certainly been nudged in that direction, there has never been as hard a push to make them be more active and modernized.

Again, it’s just sheer hyprocrisy from some here. “Healers need to heal more” but yet when presented with a week where there is just going to be more token raw healing needing to be done, well that’s just plain unacceptable. So what that can only mean is not that healers need to “heal more” but that the role of healing needs to go back to trivial days where healing was “holy light bomb the tank” or “spam chain heal on the melee” easymode levels of healing.

Edit - The real irony is even in the granddaddy of RPGs, Dungeons and Dragons, being a healbot is far less mechanically viable too and you are far better served in CC/utility/damage avoidance than straight up damage recovery. Like sure there are powerful healing spells, but you straight up do not have the action economy nor the spell slots to sustain your “healer” having to take every turn to heal the party and even at low levels, you can’t keep up with the damage output basic enemies do to a similar low level party. Healing/recovering damage is something you do once you’ve handled or ran away from the damage whereas healing in the heat of the moment is more meant to literally save someone’s life. Having your “healer” do something massive like charm the boss and order his forces to drop their weapons or blind the enemy making all their attacks miss “heals” your party more than your actual healing spell heals for.

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I’m starting off with a +15 AV to get warmed up. Gonna get my 2500 this week.

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best of luck dude. o7

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This but unironically - this is what boomers want healing to be. You press rank 1 flash heal maybe every 5 seconds if you feel like it. That’s what they want. Lol.

ABC is abhorrent to them.

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I definitely dont want to go back to anything like that.

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the last 2 seasons were fun
they need to do whatever those two seasons did imo :dracthyr_comfy_black:

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Badness aside, for me it’s a combination of difficult affixes and pugs unwillingness to change. Even with mass dispel, I can’t wait for 4-5 stacks, so a stack or two gets by and I’m stuck healing grievous while the group plows forward. I got laughed out of HoV 17 for not being able to heal the Helja bubble, and then laughed out of RLP 18 for wiping on the first boss despite 58k HPS (which feels like a lot but I don’t really know.)

Great players and established groups will be fine. I’m not crying for anyone to make things easier, I think it’s just beyond my skill and patience (and that’s OK.) It does suck to go from timing 18/19 keys to unable to complete a 17.

It’s only day 1, but I will likely be a 1 key wonder this week. Wipe after wipe I am having trouble identifying what I could have done better. Every CD used, trinkets, potions. I know I can be better, because plenty of players are better than me. I just don’t know how this week. There’s plenty of other things to do than bash my head against the wall. I think i’ll go bash my head against solo shuffle to get the mount.

Still happy to play, still willing to pay.

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Here’s my priest. Maybe I’ll level my dusty old DK.

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I am guessing that you have your raid set equipped? Your haste could use some love if that is your dungeon set. :heart: I hear you though, HoV is another animal to heal this season compared to other dungeons.

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It seems every week is a bad week for melee dps. Think I might just keep def stance on while dpsing in keys this week lol.

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It’s just my all-around set. I think haste would help, you’re right.

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na na na na na Batman

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Who played the best batman though?

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Adam West hands down. :dracthyr_blob_dance_animated:

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Yeah im going to farm low keys for valor
screw these affxies, its hell.

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ilvl 400+ healers are wiping on +10’s this week do to the affixes, I don’t blame them for not wanting to do it