M+ Needs Modernized

mythic already adds mechanics. you can’t keep adding more and more every level.

it adds mechanics the same way Normal adds mechanics to LFR.

Crank it all the way up to mythic.

You’re telling me that you can’t think of new mechanics that can be added?

I think there’s already more than enough going on in mplus dungeons. Remember how players overwhelmingly wanted the old affixes removed because dungeons were already too complicated?

No, old affixes removed because people complained. So the difficulty shifted to raw % hp/damage instead for similar difficulty… to which people also complain.

it’s like people want keys to always be able to +1 infinitely.

Then pushers get an unchanging game to which they also get bored because they have 3x more time with absence of push weeks, and removal of tyr/fort weeks.

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that’s not the order things happened in, the difficulty was one shotty damage checks all of dragonflight before the affixes got scraped

its the dungeons. the dungeons are the problem. everything else is a symptom

The dungeons are not the problem. Every dungeon operates on do mechanics, or stuff kills you. Every single one.

City of Threads hasn’t been excessively complained about due to the roleplay portion.

wut. yes it has. Those complaints are maybe overshadowed by every dungeon doing too much damage. Which is part of “the dungeons are the problem”. The damage of auto attacks and webbolts. All that is part of it.

But it literally isn’t, stuff has killed, since, ever.

Even in praised S3, I’ve bricked so many Galakrond’s fall and Murozond’s Rise keys.

Of course, people compare like last 2 weeks of a season with first 2 weeks of new season and expect similar difficulty.

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Wow u got mad quick. So most retail players don’t want vanilla esque content in retail. If they did they would play classic. Good news though there’s a 20th anniversary event right now that you can do some of that old content again. And no I’m not embarrassed. I think your opinion is one that most don’t share but if anyone else does I’d tell them the same thing. If you want to play classic go play classic. Stop trying to bring that boring content to retail. The nostalgia is gone. If you want mediocre content do some follower dungeons. That’s about on the challenge level as classic is.

Naw those oozes will mess up a full geared tank, and if one of the big ones spawn under you healers have to pump them to keep them alive. Yeah the trash prior to second boss id easily say is more leathal than the first boss. Also cuz the first boss minus the charges is also a cake walk

Thats not a good thing for a games difficulty to revolve around…
The difficulty of a game shouldnt bee based around a time sink where its only “difficult” because you have too wait.

Seriously this is like the most simple of concepts to understand.
If people are meant too afk in a game like wow to progress people wont play.

For sure the people that wanted delve were the kind of “m+ player” that was horrible, or only did 1 through 5 and didnt want to actually push their character to begin with.

Tell me you don’t raid without telling me you don’t raid.

Check this out if you haven’t:

TWW M+ runs per week: Season 1, Week 5 : r/CompetitiveWoW

hey, buddy, long time no see. i just came back from a break. how bad does mistweaver feel in keys right now?

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Hey how’s it going.

I took a break from retail after the first week until about 3 weeks ago due to RL being crazy so I’m only getting back into it.

I’m horribly biased into loving Mistweaver throughout it’s existence, but right now I feel MW plays great in keys with a lot of fistweaving vs casting options (understanding that if you want to push title or anything super high you need to focus on fistweaving).

Mistweaver handles the affixes very well, we have Touch of Death for the add affix, ring of peace is great for this cc affix, and we have revival as an “o crap” way to handle the dispel affix. And SG is a meaty group heal for that affix as well.

I also feel like I have to try very hard to OOM.

yeah, thats what i was thinking. i havent really gotten to keys yet. i started off trying shaman out due to it really being 1 of only 2 healers im not proficient with yet. but i really, really still hate the playstyle. now im leveling the paladin again, but with daybreak missing, its just not the same. im thinking about hopping back over to the mistweaver. i just love it

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