Those are three examples of why a run can be abandoned.
Not the only reasons you can abandon a run.
Are you seriously that dense as to not understand that?
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I am not Blizzard, I can not read minds. I am to be given what is at face value. Plus it is easy to say “I am left this key because I did not think I could time it”. Is very exploitable. This is why people are banned.
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No, people are banned because they repeatedly left keys, often maliciously.
Your average M+ key runner, who might leave 1 key per day, if that, isn’t a target, they’re not getting banned.
Bad actors who leave multiple keys per hour, who have more runs abandoned than they have runs completed, who left within minutes of the run starting rather than near the end when it was clear the run wasn’t going to be timed. Those are the people who are getting banned.
You’re falsely attributing reasonable gameplay decisions to what bad actors are doing so you can create some BS post about how you’re ‘expected to stay in every run’ which is not something that Blizzard has ever said you had to do.
For someone who, to quote you, ‘takes things at face value’ and ‘can’t read minds’ you sure are making wild claims about things Blizzard never said.
In pugs people seriously on average leave/ruin a key a day? That’s FAR too frequent. I was thinking the average person maybe left a M+ 1-2 times a month.
On a +12/13 Necrotic wake or Ara-kara or StoneVault. On the first bloodlust pull. What percentage is it successful in a pug?
I imagine you’re probably right, but I wanted to make a point about the types of people who are being banned.
Someone who leaves 1 to 2 keys a day isn’t getting banned. But muppets on the forums are acting like they’re going to be personally targeted by Blizzard if they leave a single key at any point moving forward, regardless of the reason.
you leaving many keys because of player not good at the game is malicious. you have to stay and complete it or risk being banned and you deserve it because you are griefing.
just cause u make it up random stuff you want to believe is true doesnt make it true
they said you cant leave more then a few. so as i said before u got 2 or 3 leaves. other then that u better stay in my keys and carry me or risk being banned.
I get that people are going to leave, life happens, but I think if someone is leaving a key a day… they probably should be banned or at least suspended for a time, but I’m sure the average players aren’t leaving that frequently.
You should be more aware of the capabilities of the people in your runs. Isn’t that what Raider IO is for? To help you make educated decisions about who is in your run and how many runs they’ve cleared of the difficulty you’re aiming for?
You do not have to stay in every run. Blizzard never said you did, so you’re just making crap up so you can be angry about the crap you made up.
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you would be surprised. When three two or even one wipe happens. Someone leaves… in a +12/+13
Those are the people that I would say are a problem… leaving after a single wipe, maybe two, is absurd to me.
I’m trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.
what does raideri io have to do with it? blizzard said nothing about that.
blizzard said you are a griefer if u leave keys too many times. and you should be banned for it. maybe u dont like it because you are a griefer.
yeah its obvious your a griefer leaver and are mad you will be banned now.
in your own words
You’re clearly not paying attention and/or are trolling.
I’m telling you, flat out, that Blizzard has never said that you must ‘stay in every run’ and that if you leave any run early that you’re a griefer. I am telling you flat out that what Blizzard HAS said is that they are targeting people who have left runs a great many times, often recklessly and/or maliciously which is ruining the gameplay experience of everyone else in that run.
Now, are you done making claims with no factual basis? Or do I have to put you on ignore for trolling?
doesnt matter what you tell anyone. only matters what blizz said. so stay mad griefer, you cant leave runs now or will be banned
Well good thing Blizzard didn’t say any of the crap you’re spewing.
Bye.
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idk u need to make up your own mind. seems your super confused. you keep saying blizz will ban people who leave too much. you also say blizzard wont ban people who leave too much.
sounds like you dont even know what you mean
bottom line is now griefers like you cant leave runs and brick poor innocent peoples keys or you will be banned, and good riddance
No. I am not trolling. I support Blizzards decision in banning leavers.
Let’s say you do 10 keys in 1 day. Let’s say a +12/13 Necrotic Wake. Out of 10 tries. How many times could you time that key? If you leave the majority of the time lets say 7/10 because you think it is not timetable after 1-2 wipes. That is griefing and malicious.
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You are not the person I was replying to.
Which should have been painfully obvious.
I’m sure Blizz have an algorithm that tells them a) the rate of leaving for each player and whether it exceeds their tolerances; and b) the context in which a player left (i.e. after 20 wipes vs after 1 wipe). Basically, don’t consistently be a jerk to other players and groups and you should be fine.
It’s like reporting to Amazon that your delivery went missing - Amazon will initially always just refund you or send you another item no questions asked…until their algorithm flags you as a “constant returner/someone always claiming items are lost/wants replacement all the time”. At some point it becomes obvious. Then they ban you from using their platform to buy stuff.
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Digital handcuffs to the gaming chair lol
I look forward to laughing when a bad player threatens the rest of us not to leave after wiping in Darkflame cleft for the 6th time.
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