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Loot in general has been nerfed. Raids will drop less loot, while m+ if you time it will be 2 pieces of loot for the group. Either way it’s infinitely farmable.
I think heroic raiders are in for a rude awakening if they think they don’t need M+. And M+ is oblivious to the fact that you have the ability to endlessly farm and get loot faster than raider. Especially with the nerfed drop rates for raids.
Also its a MYTHIC raider. Not heroic. Yeah they have a small chance to get lucky and get 2 pieces with these changes probably. M+ was ALWAYS restricted to 1 mythic item a week. So this complaint is utterly pointless regarding this system change.
Protip: When the subjects of your comparison can simply be inverted to make the exact opposite side’s argument, your argument is extremely bad.
BFA works the opposite way. You can spend weeks repeating a boring heroic raid for a chance at loot or you can run as many keys as you want for guaranteed 40%+ distribution of better-than-heroic loot.
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actually i just learned that you need 10 runs a week to see all 3 choices in the weekly vault.
im happy. 10 runs is enough to keep ppl busy a bit.
I would much rather have 1 to 4 pieces of 226 or 233 per week than 1 piece of 226 a week. You think m+ loot is op, then make raids repeatable and drop 210 gear on mythic difficulty.
Give me the good 226 and 233 gear and trinkets/weapons, I really don’t care about stepping stone farmable gear.
So Mythic raid then? If you’re just doing M+ you don’t need 233 gear. Are you just crying for the sake of it?
m+ keys over 20 would beg to differ
And gearing will be faster for a pure M+ player then it was in BfA
You should, given how long it took for you to get AOTC.
I’m sure you’d love for keys to keep dropping better-than-heroic gear given since most of your gear is from keys and you are only 10/12 Heroic.
Look, Heroic raid isn’t that hard and the end-of-week chest still gives Mythic raid quality loot. You don’t have to cry so hard about this.
Actually, you need 233 more for m+ than for raid. This is because, for the most part, 233 gear only comes AFTER raid progression has ended. What purpose does it have to make Raiders stronger when they have already beat the tier?
In PvP and M+ the difficulty is uncapped and so more ilvls always helps progression.
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Sounds like Mythic is easy then? You should stop complaining and rejoice at how easy it will be for you to grab that sweet 233 gear and push those 32 keys.
i was originally bummed thinking ppl would only run 1 14 a week and thats it. but it looks like youll need 10 runs to see 3 choices in the weekly vault.
i cant whine now.
I think most will run the 5 for the 2 pieces honestly, unless ALL they do is M+, but generally you have a full team then.
I think most of the people complaining about the changes are the same people making a real life living off selling M+15
That’s how it works. Nerf content to make it less appealing and people will do it less.
People who don’t raid now are not raiding because they don’t want to raid. Make their content pointless and they’re not going to suddenly wake up on a mythic raiding team with decades of experience. They’ll be off looking for something fun to do.
I think most of the people who support the changes are the same posters who show up on every hot button topic involving controversial and unpopular changes to the game. A lot of them don’t even play the game. Hey, you’re posting on a classic character. Slow day? End game not keeping you busy?
Paid carries will now be done by mythic raiders, whose gear will be far better than anyone else’s. Anybody who is at gold cap on many characters would be tempted to make the conversion to hard cash. Mythic raiders would hardly be immune.
They can keep reward the same but break the key when you fail?
Except M+ is not pointless, only ones freaking out about these changes are the middle level M+ runners who only do 15s, all the people who only do M+ at high level realize that they are actually going to be geared faster
M+ was that way at the start just about, it did not work well.
You still get the mythic item in your end of week chest.
At least now maybe the mythic race will be interesting instead of “who farmed more keys?”
I quit for seven months, came back and got AOTC and keymaster in 5 days. The keymaster took 4.5 days and the raid took 0.5 days.
I stopped pushing this season, because I’m too far behind on stacking vers. Next season I plan to not quit and try pushing higher. This 233 gear and raid trinkets really aren’t encouraging though.
Because I did tank mythic raid in 8.2, I did 4/8M. I got the raid trinket and that single item is what allowed me to get key master in that season (as Guardian), which was much harder than 8.3 season with corruption.
On a 15+ KR as a Bear (in 8.2), before I got that raid trinket I’d just get deleted, after the trinket I was sturdy enough to get through.
In the mythic raid, I felt invincible, with no chance of dying. Mythic raid is far easier as a tank than KR 15+ was.
9.1 will be difficult like 8.2 was since we have less borrowed power. It might even be harder than 8.2.
A 15+ in 9.1 will feel like a 20+ in 8.3.